Quote Originally Posted by Miziliti View Post
At the same time those people use their eden end game gears to cheese extreme primal with excessive dps numbers, then call everything easy. Some pfs are blocking non-savage gear players like crazy. I take long time to learn and figure out stuff, so I don't like the wipe fest of savage content, but I do like most of the extreme primal fights because they are less stressful to git gud at.

Hades EX pf:

Blind btw
Phase 1 prog btw
ilvl 460 btw
Day one btw

So I'm not allow to do the new EX primal unless I beat savage? Are people for real? I don't get why ilvl 460+ people don't just do it with their static and has to shxt on casual/mid-core players in pf.
"Blind btw" - Whats your issue with that? People want to figure this fight out for themselves, without consulting a guide because thats more fun to them - is this a problem now...? Because in the past I was under the impression that PFs like "watch a guide/video" on day one where a lot more frowned upon. If you want to run this with people who have watched a video/guide and are only going to follow this: Make your own PF, stating that.
"Phase 1 prog btw" - again, whats the problem? The PF is only telling you how far that group already knows the fight so you can pick one that matches your own experience up to that point.
"ilvl 460 btw" - you dont need Savage gear to achieve that, tomestone gear is ilvl460 and with this patch the upgraded crafted gear is 460 aswell, same with the new 24-man-stuff, which will also give you a coin to upgrade a piece of tomestone-gear from 460 to 470, making it fairly easy for a non-savage-player to achieve and ilvl of 460. The fight itself will ask for 450 btw, full savage would be 470 - 460 seems like a very fair middleground to me that everyone whos been playing this game for the past weeks can achieve easly. If you dont: Make your own PF asking for 450.
"Day one btw" - Yes - and? Non of these things you listed above are clashing with that: People want blind runs, some with progress in early phases of the fight and with an ilvl that any "dedicated casual" player will have.

You're allowed to:
-make your own PF
-queue for it through the DF
-join a PF that fits you

And to answer your question: My static was missing two people on tuesday so we filled the open spots via PF. Going in blind. On day one. How dare we!