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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post

    Anyway, I imagine the people who are fans of Nier are really stoked, but for those that aren't or haven't even played it, it's kind of a big "whaaaa?"
    I'm a big fan of Nier and Nier Automata and I had to work around a few things to enjoy the raid actually!

    I don't like the concept of shoving a whole game world / setting into another. It gets so much Automata-y that I kind of forgot I was actually playing FFXIV, or at least I felt a bit confused about it. And if you want to be really the annoying lore person, there's quite a lot of Automata base concepts that make no sense in FFXIV's setting, or have an awkward justification.

    Now it is quite well designed, self contained, does what Nier does rather well, and from an FFXIV gameplay perspective it's good. I find it a bit too easy but maybe it's my taste.

    So my concerns would be to get a "y tho?" feeling by the end of the raid quests (so we have quite some time). If I wanted to play something with a Nier Automata flavour, well I'd play Nier Automata, it has a great replayability value. The introduction is not that interesting in my opinion, so let's wait and see.
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    Best raid evarrrr

    Seriously. I loved it. My wife also loved it. It was very hard compared to past raids in our opinions. I personally found it easy enough to "challenge me" without giving me too much stress at the same time. XD

    The music was some of the best in game. The AoE designs were awesome to see. The mechancis are fun. Theres different mechanics depending on which platform you are on too.

    About it being "a bit too hard" for some of you, I seriously dont mean this in a bad way. Not at all, I swear. Though, I do feel maybe you are just *cough*bad.*cough* I know, i know, Im sorry. Give it some more practice and see if you change your mind about it being "too hard." As another user said, the aoes are actually more simple than they seem.

    If you dont like Nier or the art style/lore..then yeah. No helping it. Im sorry that you couldnt enjoy it as I had.
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    I found it underwhelming. As hard as it has been advertised, I've been surprised when I hit the end of the quest. I expected more, than a rel. short raid (which's only difficulty is rather the limited camera distance), little (basically entirely from the world detached) story, and a small lore-chest hunt. (btw, isn't there somewhere a completion-counter? Don't know if I've found every box)
    I hope there're more quests later, because I find its story has barely begun.
    Come on Anogg and Konogg, be quicker to stumble over another threat!
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    I enjoyed it despite never having played any of the Nier games (On a ever growing list of games to play) - It did feel like a totally different game not FFXIV but that's to be expected considering its a cross over - Loved the music I really need to play Automata.
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    Never played any of the Tier games but I honestly quite enjoyed the raid TBH. It's maybe a bit too easy overall? But at least there's enough mechanics that will eventually kill you if you keep napping.

    I also quite liked the visual style of the raid tbh. It's enough of a contrast without feeling completely out of place that it felt pretty fresh to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    I actually asked myself a similar question; how did they not see all that? They have Amaro. Eulmore, a military power who would most definitely patrol their borders, has airships. Kholusia is SW of the rest of Norvrandt. It would have been literally impossible for everyone to have missed everything that was in that valley from the sky.
    It's called the Copied Factory, which has me believe that everything behind the door the two dwarves blew up is all artificial, the sky included. Basically, it's all underground.
    Why NieR stuff is in FFXIV can also be explained via one of NieR: Automata's endings, too. Wouldn't be the first time Yoko Taro used an ending of one game (Drakengard's E ending, where Caim and the Red Dragon end up in Tokyo) to start a new story (NieR)... the real question is how it ended up on a Shard, though.
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    I enjoyed it. /Shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by meischoice View Post
    I didn't enjoy it. :/
    That's all. Sorry
    Best raid to date and can't wait for the nest additions. Sorry you didn't like it.
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    I personally enjoyed it heaps.
    The music, the boss fights and mechanics, the scenery, the characters, the item drops!
    I loved it all.

    Hopefully the next 2 raids will be more enjoyable for the people that didn't end up liking this one ;; !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerkrosis View Post
    (which's only difficulty is rather the limited camera distance)
    this, also the fact you cant focus target boss before fight.

    overall a really boring raid.
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