Crystals & Shards No more

[Shadygrove]

If you have a house, you can get shards from gardening as well. They take a day to grow and give 50 shards per plant. Granted there are some high-value crosses that can be done in a garden as well but for someone not obsessed with getting the most value out of everything gardening for shards is a very low-effort option.

They can be grown in flowerpots as well. The various grades of Shroud topsoil increase yeild. G1 = 65, G2 = 75, G 3 =100.

[tdb]

They can be grown in flowerpots as well. The various grades of Shroud topsoil increase yeild. G1 = 65, G2 = 75, G 3 =100.

True, I forgot flowerpots were a thing. I think you can only put one pot in an apartment though? So it's not a very fast way without access to a garden. I think the shroud topsoils are not worth it for growing shards though, given the prices of soil and shards on the MB.

[aesteval]

60 shards an hour is not to low and I can focus on collecting other things or do dailies and getting thing s of value is subjective server to server player to player.
even with just two default retainers that's 120 an hour while im doing raids. leveling or whatever I want.

And with current abilities you can get 100+ shards or crystals from a single node once every 3 minutes or so. Meanwhile the retainers could be going for RNG minions that are worth millions of gil. The value of shards and crystals from retainer ventures has stagnated vs what else retainers can bring back.

[Maxeum]

If we aren't going to care about depth why not just reduce the whole thing to a browser game with numbers, I mean that's really all we need. If you actually play the game and put in the tiniest bit of effort, I know crazy idea, it will pay off. I'm surprised no one is asking for crafter jump potions yet. I would also like to add, it's valuable because it's hard, it takes time, effort, you take that away and it's no longer valuable, it's no longer worth doing.

[SpecialTaskForce]

HEY HEY HEY CLOSE THIS THREAD HORRIBLE IDEA and if anything WE NEED CRAFTS WITH MORE CRYSTALS/CLUSTERS REQUIREMENTS get rid of the shards I agree but not the crystals.

[Shadygrove]

Mining retainers will bring 10 G1 soils or 3 G2.

On the MB G1s are often as cheap as potting soil.

Private chambers and apartments can hold 2 flowerpots.

[tdb]

Fair enough, I guess I was only thinking of G3 soil, which is the grade usually employed with crossing plants. And for some reason I thought apartment would be one less than a cottage, but it appears to be the same.

[Erudito]

Since crafting and other in-world things require crystals lore-wise, why not simply do away with shards and clusters? Keeps it simple since we need a plethora of crystals for crafting as it is.

[RookWolf]

If you have a garden, it is a potential massive source of shards. They grow in a day. You can even send your retainer for the seeds and soil (I think more efficient than sending for shards).

[hynaku]

Did you need them in FFXI to craft items? It's been so long I don't remember.