How SE is alienating talented players

[DyskoFox]

Still dont see it, where is the "Skill", there is ways to do a Speed Run and that is classed as Skill because you can define it as a Strategy?

Is Camping in an FPS a Skill because its a Strategy?

You ignored the whole of my post... Camping is a strategy, being able to do it effectively takes talent. Not everyone can camp well in a fps. Is that easier to understand?

[Biggs]

Having read all these posts so far, I can't say I have any desire to do either of these new dungeons any more than I would want to do the Darkhold again. My options are to play through my own way at my own pace and be rewarded less for that, or speed run through them 100 times and be rewarded with a shitty droprate. What part of these runs contain the good times again?

[Murugan]

Having read all these posts so far, I can't say I have any desire to do either of these new dungeons any more than I would want to do the Darkhold again. My options are to play through my own way at my own pace and be rewarded less for that, or speed run through them 100 times and be rewarded with a shitty droprate. What part of these runs contain the good times again?

The kind you do with people you can stand, and actually enjoy playing with all patch long.

Not the ones you do out of convenience with a bunch of assholes, spamming the content 100 times a day so you can get your gear in a couple weeks and be done until the next patch (with content and the people, both of whom you are sick of by then) so that you have more free time to craft yourself a few more hundred million gil.

[Biggs]

The kind you do with people you can stand, and actually enjoy playing with all patch long.

Not the ones you do out of convenience with a bunch of assholes, spamming the content 100 times a day so you can get your gear in a couple weeks and be done until the next patch (with content and the people, both of whom you are sick of by then) so that you have more free time to craft yourself a few more hundred million gil.

Done and Done sir.

[viion]

Dear SE, Dont make a nice dungeon in future, don't even add mobs, just have a long corridor and a boss at the end, that is all you need to do to for-fill the "skill" of your players.

lols

Maybe I should blame SE for making thinking of such crappy design ideas in the first place, by promoting speed runs. Or maybe I am still wearing my goggles from another game that got dungeons right.

[fusional]

Dear SE, Dont make a nice dungeon in future, don't even add mobs, just have a long corridor and a boss at the end, that is all you need to do to for-fill the "skill" of your players.

lols

dear premium virtue, please upload a video of you demonstrating your "skill" in this easy videogame. include your best parses as well, so we might better understand how you can possibly be so much better than the rest of us without ever doing a single productive thing with your time.

lolzzz

[viion]

dear premium virtue, please upload a video of you demonstrating your "skill" in this easy videogame. include your best parses as well, so we might better understand how you can possibly be so much better than the rest of us without ever doing a single productive thing with your time.

lolzzz

Typical BG response =)

"My dick is so big, lemme see you do better"

You has no skill, sorry but you cant change my mind, doing a speed run, does not count for skill.

[fusional]

Typical BG response =)

"My dick is so big, lemme see you do better"

You has no skill, sorry but you cant change my mind, doing a speed run, does not count for skill.

quote where i said speed runs in this game are really hard, or anything else for that matter. take your time, i'll wait. and while you're at it, quote where i said i was amazingly skilled or anything close to it. i'll wait for that, too.

these are simply straw man fallacies you set up to knock down because you literally have no argument otherwise.

but in case i need to spell things out for you, here:

i never said those things. all i said was you talk a lot for someone who does nothing, and all i did was ask you to put your money where your mouth is.

instead of doing so, you deflect and project.

it's simple- if these things are so easy, why haven't you done them yet? it shouldn't take but 20 minutes of your time, yes?

p.s. i've never designed a website, but i talked to someone who did and he said it was easy. and his site is better than yours. therefore i know all about designing websites and quite certainly have the skill to do so myself if i so desired. your site is dumb and you have no skill, i won't bother proving anything i've said by showing you a website i've designed myself, and you cannot change my mind, etc etc.

[KiraAmane]

quote where i said speed runs in this game are really hard, or anything else for that matter. take your time, i'll wait. and while you're at it, quote where i said i was amazingly skilled or anything close to it. i'll wait for that, too.

these are simply straw man fallacies you set up to knock down because you literally have no argument otherwise.

but in case i need to spell things out for you, here:

i never said those things. all i said was you talk a lot for someone who does nothing, and all i did was ask you to put your money where your mouth is.

instead of doing so, you deflect and project.

it's simple- if these things are so easy, why haven't you done them yet? it shouldn't take but 20 minutes of your time, yes?

p.s. i've never designed a website, but i talked to someone who did and he said it was easy. and his site is better than yours. therefore i know all about designing websites and quite certainly have the skill to do so myself if i so desired. your site is dumb and you have no skill, i won't bother proving anything i've said by showing you a website i've designed myself, and you cannot change my mind, etc etc.

Straw-man fallacy, you wanting to go to Law School too :P? Lol

You just went HAM on this guy. Hahahaha.

[viion]

quote where i said speed runs in this game are really hard, or anything else for that matter. take your time, i'll wait. and while you're at it, quote where i said i was amazingly skilled or anything close to it. i'll wait for that, too.

these are simply straw man fallacies you set up to knock down because you literally have no argument otherwise.

but in case i need to spell things out for you, here:

i never said those things. all i said was you talk a lot for someone who does nothing, and all i did was ask you to put your money where your mouth is.

instead of doing so, you deflect and project.

it's simple- if these things are so easy, why haven't you done them yet? it shouldn't take but 20 minutes of your time, yes?

p.s. i've never designed a website, but i talked to someone who did and he said it was easy. and his site is better than yours. therefore i know all about designing websites and quite certainly have the skill to do so myself if i so desired. your site is dumb and you have no skill, i won't bother proving anything i've said by showing you a website i've designed myself, and you cannot change my mind, etc etc.

Doesn't matter where you said it, you're defending Speed Run as something that is "Talent".

I haven't done them because I don't want to do them, infact if you bothered to care, look at my profile, I hardly play the game because its boring as shit right now. Plus if you also bothered to know I am moving server, I dont hang with anyone on my current server. Cant get much done solo. Just because I havent done them doesnt mean anything, if I did them and kept dying, maybe, but I have never stepped foot into CC, and only been in AV for AF (which is lolz). I dont want to speed run them, I dont even want to do them legit because they dont really interest me right now. Plus I am way to busy on.. other things, which you know off.

Making sites is easy btw so not sure what your analogy on that is, if you put in the time in the end its only experience because really it all comes down to very, very simple Math.

I probably sound more hostile because, well people starting being hostile with me, so expect it, but my main point is: SE should not reward players for Speed Runs and rushing through content, because then what is the point in that content being there if 90% of it is being ignored? Should we encourage this and request the best loot to be only given if you ignore most of the content? Seems lazy. SE should design nice, interesting and fun dungeons, that reward exploration, difficulty and true strategy