How SE is alienating talented players

[SniperRifle]

My LS has 15 pieces of Darklight and we only do like 1-2 runs a day to not burn ourselves out. We managed to get one speed run completed in Aurum Vale a couple days ago and that's how we got the Heavy Darklight Armor. We're lucky if we can get 2 chests on a 59 minute clear. It takes no skill to beat it fast. The drop rate is so high we have to moderate our runs cause if we did more then 2 a day we'd have full darklite gaerz alraedy, lul.

[ChickNorris]

The reason why you have completed it faster than 95% of the people, is because of those, 90% haven't tried or do not care. If you reduce your number to include only people who are attempting the speed run, then the number grows much larger.

Reported in this thread are 5%-25%+ drop rates. Really not bad percentages at all.

And there is no triple meld in the world that is going to make Sentinel Celata and Sentinel Body come close to the stats on HDL body. Nor will it for Sentinel Gauntlets to HDL Gauntlets. It is iffy on the legs and feet vs the HDL Fal. Depends which stats you are looking for and also if you are PLD or WAR. Take out the fighter's breeches and again, no way.

But to triple meld those feet, you are going to have to either buy/farm the feet and buy/create the materia, which will be repeated coffer opening and spiritbinding. Then it would also have to be successful and at a rate that beats the drop rate from the chest in the dungeon. For every person who wants them in your team that runs the dungeon as well. Also, you would have to find standing at a chest you can solo for hours more fun than running a dungeon. Or you can blow your gils, which you earned doing things, which took time.....

In short, I understand your premise, but disagree with your conclusion.

[Veil]

I hate the longer lockout idea.
Increase the the drops geez.
4th chest should have a chance for DarkLight, and 5th chest should give at least one Darklight guranteed.
If Linkshells run Cutter's Cry 500 times in a week, and get all the gear, so what - it's what they do.
If they run till their eyes bleed, get all their crap in a week - then bitch about being bored...it's their OWN fault.
Low lockout, and higher drop rates don't hurt ANYTHING, in fact it only lowers prices of gear at the Wards which helps the casual players even more imo.
Also, keep in mind that everything we're doing now - doesn't matter at all.
All these dungeons are nothing but test-beds for SE's dungeon mechanics - from it's paying beta testers.
So keep playing, get your loot, cuz if you look up at the giant Meteor in the sky...yeah.

[Alerith]

The idea of a longer lockout caters to the players who prefer reward over having fun. Not everyone does everything for the final reward. Some people do it to enjoy the content, and an increased lockout basically says that those players aren't worth considering.

[Jynx]

The idea of a longer lockout caters to the players who prefer reward over having fun.

Nothing sais fun like Killing Ifirit....and then doing it again 10 seconds later, and again, and again...

[Alerith]

Nothing sais fun like Killing Ifirit....and then doing it again 10 seconds later, and again, and again...

I have my Ifrit clear. I don't have the sword, but I'm not concerned with it considering it's ugly and my cobalt winglet has enough materia in it to surpass Ifrit's Blade.

I do the Ifrit fight because it's fun. I've done it as a GLA tank, PLD tank and GLA DD. The fight, for me, is enjoyable, and I wouldn't want to be locked out of it if I were helping my LS or decided to try something new over several runs.

[Jynx]

I wouldn't want to be locked out of it if I were helping my LS or decided to try something new over several runs.

I personally think that the best compromise would be to allow retry attempts but to lock you out once you win. Of course everyone is going to have their own idea of how long the lockout should be.

But I don't think failures should be penalized, other than that I think that soon enough there will be enough content to cycle some different fights instead of just spamming the one.

[KiraAmane]

As of right now, we are just plowing through until 1.22. The LftP and 1.22 has given us all a second wind to suck it up and farm away.

Also, I was hoping the Memes would put an end to this thread, but it was not the case lol.

[ScorchyWorchy]

This is not a QQ post, more of a ZZZ post.

Just wondering how many of the "elite" players/LSes are just fed up with CC and AV speed runs/ the game in general.

We have been farming CC on the regular to being with, but this weekend we decided to go non-stop, periodically. We have just done 25-30 speed runs in the past day and a half a row and got ZERO Darklight gear. Meanwhile, random people are getting drops on non-speed runs.

There seems to be something wrong with this reward system. You complete the dungeon faster than 95% of the people, get no drops, then have to wait 15 minutes just to re-enter. Anyone think that wins should be automatic reentry with the abysmal drop rates they have? Three of our LS members, who are madly in love with the game, over the past two days have grown to hate the game. Clearly something is wrong with this picture.

1 DD curiass, 3 heavy DL gloves, 1 DL dd boots in 85-100 runs (I lost track). A majority of them being speed runs. Mathematically speaking, that's absurd.

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[Aceofspades]

Hmmm. Soo leme get this strait, "Elite" players are doing 25-30 speed runs in a day and are seeing low if no drop rates at all....That reminds me of a game I played once. Realy nice, very hard to attain items, and quite frankly was 50% luck if you even got it after completeing the task or dungeon, at all. But once you got that Item, that was an Item worth showing off, stats be damned, You only got that Item cuz you and your crew were realy good at the game and thats how you proved it. ... What was that game called?? Oh yeah Final Fantasy XI. If your burned out then take a break. But please stop asking the Devs to make the game even easier and acheivments less prestegious because you and your LS weren't the first ones with the gear. The way i see it, the harder to attain said gear, the more I want it. start handing that stuff out like its candy and its the next item Im just gona NPC. Personally, I think AF gear should be much , MUCH harder to acheive, But thats just my opinion. Game is too easy as it is, bring back the honor in being "elite" in this game before you start calling yourself elite , at this point half the server is "elite"