How SE is alienating talented players

[Dragon]

Like others, I don't get the point of catering to speed runs myself either as it seems counterintuitive to the point of how dungeons are meant to be implemented in the first place. They should instead design dungeons around multiple goals that actually take advantage of the many enemies such dungeons contain.

[Jeffdogg]

Elite people don't call themselves elite, they do what they do, nuff said..
And they for sure don't complain. Any elite player has more then 1 MMO they frequent on a daily basis.
Yes something with this picture is wrong, theres a wanna be trying to sound pro when they are not in hopes or getting what they want. Thats whats going on here, good day..

Oh yeah almost forgot this is where you go on about my level and duh duh duh cause you think your leet but your not. Just cause im low level doesn't mean that I didn't delete my previous toon(s) for a new adventure....

[Lux_Rayna]

This is not a QQ post, more of a ZZZ post.

It basically was a QQ post lol. Let me tell you something, just because you are good at something doesn't mean you're entitled to more of a reward. Sure it'd be nice to get something, and in many cases you do get a small bonus, but its definitely not an entitlement. The problem with "elite" players/LSes is that they feel they are entitled to things they are not. This post is basically one example, thats why elitism always cracks me up.

The goal of the dungeon is to beat it, in which case you are rewarded for your efforts. That is it. Anything above and beyond simply beating the dungeon (ie a speed run) is called "overachieving," which allows you to have bragging rights, save some time, and maybe get an achievement or some awesome little title; in this case you get a speed run chest AND an achievement (woot). You got your reward for being elite, the "extra" that normal achievers dont get, so you've been both recognized and rewarded.

I fail to see why you still feel entitled. You get a speed run chest, so what more do you want? You can do far more runs per hour than ppl who can't do speed runs. You get the achievement. You're asking for way too much for simply being able to do a speed run. Sorry about your luck but I think you're going too far with your requests.

[Akumu]

The reason these dungeons don't have long lockouts because they are not the "raids" some are assuming they are. This game doesn't have any real endgame content yet. This is just content we can do at the current cap. I see primal fights to be the same as they were in Final Fantasy XI. The dungeons are also like the open ones in XI just instanced. '

This game doesn't have endgame raids yet.

[Rjain]

I went for a walk just now and I noticed an odd smell. Turns out it was all the douche that's in this thread.

I don't know which side is worse... the side that thinks they're elite for doing speed runs or the side that hates speed runs when it's part of the game's design (you have to do speed runs to get certain gear and achievements).

Not even sure what to say. Some improvements need to be made to drop rates, but the posts in this thread took me by surprise by how silly they are.

WAIT!

I forgot I'm on the Final Fantasy XIV forums. No surprise here.

[KiraAmane]

I went for a walk just now and I noticed an odd smell. Turns out it was all the douche that's in this thread.

I don't know which side is worse... the side that thinks they're elite for doing speed runs or the side that hates speed runs when it's part of the game's design (you have to do speed runs to get certain gear and achievements).

Not even sure what to say. Some improvements need to be made to drop rates, but the posts in this thread took me by surprise by how silly they are.

WAIT!

I forgot I'm on the Final Fantasy XIV forums. No surprise here.

And rather than respond to peoples posts, I thought another meme (I know, so 2010) would suffice.

[Rjain]

And rather than respond to peoples posts, I thought another meme (I know, so 2010) would suffice.

[KiraAmane]

Classic! Lmao.

[Kitensa]

This is not a QQ post, more of a ZZZ post.

Just wondering how many of the "elite" players/LSes are just fed up with CC and AV speed runs/ the game in general.

We have been farming CC on the regular to being with, but this weekend we decided to go non-stop, periodically. We have just done 25-30 speed runs in the past day and a half a row and got ZERO Darklight gear. Meanwhile, random people are getting drops on non-speed runs.

There seems to be something wrong with this reward system. You complete the dungeon faster than 95% of the people, get no drops, then have to wait 15 minutes just to re-enter. Anyone think that wins should be automatic reentry with the abysmal drop rates they have? Three of our LS members, who are madly in love with the game, over the past two days have grown to hate the game. Clearly something is wrong with this picture.

1 DD curiass, 3 heavy DL gloves, 1 DL dd boots in 85-100 runs (I lost track). A majority of them being speed runs. Mathematically speaking, that's absurd.

You're still the only person on our server that I've seen with a Darklight body, so Iunno. Take that how you will.

[AshTS]

I stopped reading once I saw that they idled for 6.25-7.5 hours in a 36 hour span.