Individual players shouldn't be allowed to purchase or relocate to Large plots.

[Taedius]

It makes me incredibly livid. It\\'s clear that so many different forms of housing exist for different groups- smalls for the everyman, mediums for bigger groups and influential persons, and larges for communities. All that space in a Large- basement, separated upper floors, massive foyer- what does one person need all that space for? Nothing but vanity and proof that they can play the marketboards or grind too much.

A FC can use that space for so much. Aesthetics of a mixed group; workstations to benefit crafters; food for raids and content and more; buffs and other benefits; showcasing the achievements of the collective through special furniture; and more.

As a role player, on a roleplay server, who runs a roleplay community that works to engage the WHOLE of the server in learning and playing within the game\\'s unlimited creative potential, it hurts even more. So much space that can be used, in character and out of character- GONE because one person decided they need a monument to their vanity.

There\\'s only a handful of larges per ward. And you let the few who overwork the system snap it up and not give the community you say you care so much about half a chance, SE. You can do better than this.

[Mavrias]

FCs dont need larges anymore than individuals do. More space is just more slots for decorating and garden plots. If you want a large for your FC its best to go through the same channels as everyone else, I.E. purchasing a small and transferring over.

[Spens]

seriously, if you're going to run it like this don't bother pretending it's more fc friendly by locking it to fc purchases only while still allowing individual transfers. at least if the damn things were on general timed purchases you'd have a chance at getting lucky with the click lottery instead of getting boned because the client insists on kicking you all the way back to desktop every time it craps out on login or whatever

[Taedius]

FCs dont need larges anymore than individuals do. More space is just more slots for decorating and garden plots. If you want a large for your FC its best to go through the same channels as everyone else, I.E. purchasing a small and transferring over.

1) Slots are already limited. For those who can't even get a small, you can't transfer in anyway.
2) Transferring is a broken system that allows singular players to do this EXACT. THING. And screw other communities out of their chance in the first place.
3) A community of tens of people, up to over a hundred, deserves to have the chance to take advantage of benefits far more than one person and up to three of their friends, as they can accomplish far more (even just in theory) than a light party (at most).

So yes. I would say that FCs need the space more than individuals do. And deserve the CHANCE, at least, to get it, without needing to exploit a system that you already need to pray you can get into in the first place.

[Mavrias]

1) Slots are already limited. For those who can't even get a small, you can't transfer in anyway.
2) Transferring is a broken system that allows singular players to do this EXACT. THING. And screw other communities out of their chance in the first place.
3) A community of tens of people, up to over a hundred, deserves to have the chance to take advantage of benefits far more than one person and up to three of their friends, as they can accomplish far more (even just in theory) than a light party (at most).

So yes. I would say that FCs need the space more than individuals do. And deserve the CHANCE, at least, to get it, without needing to exploit a system that you already need to pray you can get into in the first place.

1) yes. all plots are limited until square decides to make instanced housing. whats your point?

2) its a broken system because what? you couldnt take appropriate steps to use it like the individuals you're complaining about did? and refuse to use it now so you can be prepared for next time, even though tons of smalls opened up everywhere? Especially since as an FC, had you taken this route and had sufficient funds, you could have had multiple people out at the same time, increasing your chances more than the individual.

3) the benefits of...what exactly? garden plots? Highly doubtful the whole FC uses garden plots simply because cross breeding takes up a lot of time and slots. Itll be one or two people gardening regularly. FC buffs? you get the same buffs in a small as you do a large. decorating? most FCs, especially larger ones, dont let every member decorate at will. crafting stations? Virtually worthless after level 50.


You're salty because you had bad luck. Its unfortunate for you, but implying other players are vain and greedy bevause of it is uncalled for.

[Maxeum]

1) Slots are already limited. For those who can't even get a small, you can't transfer in anyway.
2) Transferring is a broken system that allows singular players to do this EXACT. THING. And screw other communities out of their chance in the first place.
3) A community of tens of people, up to over a hundred, deserves to have the chance to take advantage of benefits far more than one person and up to three of their friends, as they can accomplish far more (even just in theory) than a light party (at most).

So yes. I would say that FCs need the space more than individuals do. And deserve the CHANCE, at least, to get it, without needing to exploit a system that you already need to pray you can get into in the first place.

You do have a chance to get it, one could argue a larger group of people have more of a chance to get it. Stop being jealous of hard work.

[Nix]

You do have a chance to get it, one could argue a larger group of people have more of a chance to get it. Stop being jealous of hard work.

It's an obscene amount of luck and nothing more - I say this as someone with a personal and FC home. I did not work hard to raise millions for my first home, nor did I work hard to camp when the new wards opened. I was just lucky to find the plots open and with no campers.

On Hyperion, the moment a house gets demolished, there's 10+ people there. Some are legitimately clicking furiously, others are using bots/macros (you can spot the bot users because they will keep clicking the placard after purchasing the house). Farming gil in this game isn't hard work, scouting plots isn't really hard work either, and neither is being lucky enough to beat someone else in a click-fest spam.

Hard work is great if there's some kind of light at the end of the tunnel. If only hard work did pay off in the end...right? Except, chances are that it won't - there are a finite number of houses, and many FCs & people will go without simply due to lack of supply. Once the moratorium ends, all of the currently vacant plots will get snatched up again and we'll be back to where we were.
We'll have a system that once again favors the lucky few, and nothing more.

I think people need to stop gunning for larges and popular places like shiro if you're that depressed for a house.
Even on balmung there were tons of mediums and smells in goblet and even smalls in shiro for a few days.

On Hyperion, very few homes open up. It's quite common to see only one available across all housing districts/wards/subdivisions/yougetthepicture. People without homes aren't waiting for their dream plot to magically open up; they are unable to even get a burner plot to hold onto so that they can relocate in the future. When you have 20 campers in The Goblet for a small, you know it's dire lol. Not counting the present home situation in the new wards because only FCs can buy them... but once things settle down after the moratorium is lifted, we'll be back to maybe one house/day waiting to be bought D:
[At the time of this post, there were only 2 houses available that players could buy (not FCs) - they are both in the Goblet, with 5+campers at each]

[EllieShadeflare]

We seriously just need instanced housing at this point. Maybe the ability to upgrade apartments to bigger sizes and lock the houses to be FC only if we can't ever have enough houses.

[Painx]

I'm going to have say the same about Instanced housing on this, reasons why, me and my friends worked hard for a large and we enter to get one noticing all have been taken. I'm tired of competing whit players to get online 1st to get a large house. They are happy, when we are not. I prefer Instance housing like SWTOR ( Star wars the old republic) You can get a small or medium or even mansion size home whit having a back yard to grow a little farm. Even FFXI you had a mog house whit a room and still can invite friends or LS members. I purchased a small house and I'm not satisfied whit it. Please create a personal instance for homes for everyone and even one for FC's. And the best examples of homes i recommend take a look at SWTOR and is a prime example of having good instance housing. I don't want to see my neighbor basting glory whit his large house it's depressing. I want to be happy whit my family and friends in a Large house we can enjoy in. Please SE get rid of this housing and make a personal housing so my family and friends can enjoy in our own Large mansion. I'm tired of competing whit other for this. Makes me upset that not everyone has the time as others do.

[Archaell]

The individual players have to put in the same amount of effort as the Fcs. One person doing the same amount of work as 5-10-500 members FC. We could say the individual deserves the plot more for all the hard work and sleepless nights, because he/she is severely disadvantaged. It's not just making the gil. It's also buying the plot. One player is one player clicking one plot. FC can have 500 players trying to buy 500 plots at once. Even with this said, housing is fair game.

Btw. the crafting statitions work till 70 and can be placed in FC rooms.