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    Noctisnine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Sigh...

    No, it doesn't. Dragoon was buffed because Monk was already overpowered and SE tries to avoid nerfs at every opportunity even if it would be the more sensible choice. 1.7% buff doesn't put Dragoon anywhere near toppling Monk. With that said, I'll point out Monk does have Mantra which is utility no other melee can offer. Even with it being nerfed, it's still quite useful.
    Have you checked fflogs 99 %? I guess you haven't... dragoon does slight more rdps damage then monk. As does smn, blm and sam. And monk still has 2 useless skills laying there, add that to anatman's being a gcd now plus dragoon getting personal dps buffs oh and the mantra nerf. While dragoon has a much better rotation and the job feels better to play, monk on the other hand has so many problems that the way they solve it is by giving it more dps. I'm not very happy... at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctisnine View Post
    Have you checked fflogs 99 %? I guess you haven't... dragoon does slight more rdps damage then monk. As does smn, blm and sam. And monk still has 2 useless skills laying there, add that to anatman's being a gcd now plus dragoon getting personal dps buffs oh and the mantra nerf. While dragoon has a much better rotation and the job feels better to play, monk on the other hand has so many problems that the way they solve it is by giving it more dps. I'm not very happy... at all.
    Have you? Because the only fight Dragoon has a noticeably lead—or even a lead, period—is Titan as of 5.1. Bear in mind, this is with only 27 and 13 uploads, respectively. That is far from enough to accurately determine an average, especially when the better players aren't regularly clearing Savage any longer. I won't deny Dragoon plays better but that is a separate argument. Monk has better utility than Dragoon, thus them being closer in damage makes sense. As for the remaining jobs you mentioned, Black Mage and Samurai should beat Monk. Hell, Samurai has been a meme since its inception because it's the selfish melee equivalent that couldn't ever parse ahead of its utility based counterparts. Summoner is the one stand out yet one could argue it, too, should be ahead (or at least comparable) because outside of Raise, it offers very little. That said, the fact it's fighting Black Mage for top DPS and utterly annihilating Red Mage is a problem with how poorly balanced Shadowbringers has been overall.
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