So... anyone who is acutally please with the patch?

[Nanami_Naniwa]

I know, I know. If people are happy, they don't come forward and complain. I love this patch.

The new raid is amazing. Love the music, the bossfights, the quests you get after clearing the raid.

New BT? Cute! Can't wait all the juicy rewards I can get here!

Oh look, Orchestrion rolls from the ShB zones now only require Rank 2 from fates. Nice!

New dungeon? Count me in! This is so nice! This is such a big place. Woow! Let me look at that ceiling! Last boss? God, we wiped thrice until we realised what to do here! Love. it!

New crafting? Let me get used to it. It actually doesn't look half bad.

New crafting/gathering gear? Looks amazing!

New PvP gear? Amaaazing!

New housing items? Really gave me the feeling SE answered the call of the housing community. So many items that were previous custom build (like the leather couch).


So... when I head to the forum to share my excitement and my joy... there is no place. There is only:"Crafting is broken" - "housing suxx" - "why is nier glamour locked in a chest?!"


So I really would like to know if I'm the only one thinking this is quite a big and enjoyable patch.

[Kanitezz]

I haven't gotten to do anything other than the MSQ but I really enjoyed even that. I'm sure I'll enjoy the rest.

[Vidu]

I havent done even half of what the patch brought - still missing the MSQ after the dungeon, aswell as the Nier-raid and I didnt had time to re-organise my crafters yet.

While not everything is totally to my taste - I dont really like the look of that new PvP-gear, but hey, thats okay, theres other stuff for me to wear! - all in all I'm really happy with what I've seen so far! Sure, I'll need to write new macros for crafting but this also gives me a good reason to clean up my crafting macros and delete all the old ones for good, considering that they wont work anymore.

My static had a lot of fun wiping to Hades yesterday, trying to figure out the mechanics.

The beast-tribe quests promises to be super cute and creepy and I'm loving it!
All this new furniture might actually push me over the edge and make me re-do my house - something I havent done since I bought it 2 years ago. But now, with all those new stuff, I'm really excited to do something different with it!
I also agree with you on the dungeon - such a beautiful place and I really liked this "high fantasy" vibe with those ghostly elves! Not a total fan of the "carry an item out of an AoE"-mechanic, but besides that the boss-fights were fun.

...the forums however are, what they've always been, specially when it comes to patches and added content and the like. You cant please everyone and we should be so honest and acknowledge that in some regards they have a point (mainly eyeing at you, housing...).
Just find comfort in the thought that everyone whos enjoying the game is probably to busy playing it and doesnt has the time to come here and post about that! (People might also be holding back a bit on quest- or raid-discussions to not spoil anything - at least thats what I want to believe... that someone whos enjoying quests wont spoil that on day-one for the rest)

All in all: Been enjoying this patch so far and am really looking forward to our FC-NieR-run this evening! (And thanks for that "orchestrion rolls only require rank 2"-info! I hadnt checked yet, but that means I can actually get them all!)

[CookiesNCreams]

I’m happy for casual crafters with the new changes, but for hardcore crafters like myself, I’m at a loss. This is what Yoshida said just two days ago:

Q. From what i've heard so far, it seems like the "high end recipes" won't be craftable with macros

Y: The normal recipes will be craftable if you set them up properly, but the difficult recipes will require you to use the actions with procs properly when they show up and we'd like to design it where you have to actually observe the current situation.

Q. The current crafting system allows you to ignore HQ mats and use macros to craft HQ items.

Y: I thought that part was broken, so DoL/DoH will have overall adjustments. It will change entirely and new crafters and gatherers can instantly understand what to do and what does what.

But, the endgame recipes currently aren’t anything like he described. So, I’m honestly confused as to when this will happen for endgame recipes. Or, if it’ll only apply to ishgard recipes.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Two main complaints I have is them not fixing issues with 24 man raid loot, and the overhaul of PvP abilities...

But other than that, so far it's been pretty nice.

[Nanami_Naniwa]

Isn't this the first of two big overhauls for the crafting system? So this might be the first step to change it to the way they want it to be.

I'm a big macro user myself for crafting but I'd like to think that for high end crafts you actually need use your skill actively instead of macro'ing. And with Reclaim gone we cannot start over if we screw up.

@CookieNCream

[linay]

I did the new raid and only took two runs to get my weekly gear, so very happy about that. I also caught up with the MSQ and got to do 6 of the new beast tribe quests and, overall, got some gear upgrades for several jobs. Overall, very satisfied with my experience today...er...yesterday.

[Vidu]

But, the endgame recipes currently aren’t anything like he described. So, I’m honestly confused as to when this will happen for endgame recipes. Or, if it’ll only apply to ishgard recipes.

Considering that Ishgard restoration was constantly refered to as "endgame content for crafters" it seems very likely he meant that, yes.
Despite being a mastercraft since 2.0 this seems like a good thing to me: Anyone who wants a crafting challenge - like you - will get one (you'll even get a leaderboard for them), but it wont affect the market to much, meaning that even non-crafters with less income will be able to afford crafted gear. Making regular crafting more difficult OR RNG-heavy would result in higher prices on the market, which would mean that a lot of people dont have access to that gear. And yes, I know its fun to sell items that took you 2 minutes to make for millions, did that often enough... but at the end of the day thats not really all that good for the game.
So this seems like a good compromisse to me: You get a crafting-challenge, you get to show off with that leaderboard, but any crafting thats relevant to the game in regards to the rest of the population stays at a level that is mostly RNG-free and can be achieved by anyone, if they wish so (...many actually still dont).

[CookiesNCreams]

Isn't this the first of two big overhauls for the crafting system? So this might be the first step to change it to the way they want it to be.

I'm a big macro user myself for crafting but I'd like to think that for high end crafts you actually need use your skill actively instead of macro'ing. And with Reclaim gone we cannot start over if we screw up.

@CookieNCream

Just read over the last live letter. Seems that’s likely to happen lol. So I guess the difficult recipe system will be implemented in 5.2 to the endgame recipes. Time to sleep until February when 5.2 is out...

[24842]

So... when I head to the forum to share my excitement and my joy... there is no place. There is only:"Crafting is broken" - "housing suxx" - "why is nier glamour locked in a chest?!"

I've been checking these forums on a daily basis since late May. I'll just say that there was a Warrior whining about losing their HP stance a little after 5.0 changes to Tanks were announced which was the only Con the job had as a Tank compared to the rest of it's role at that time.
So long story short, some ppl just love to complain.