Enhancing Magic

[Deli]

You know what effects Enhancing Magic Potency? Vitality. Wait. I don't see any WHM's in VIT gear when they buff. Why u no have 2 sets of gear? :O

so i messed around looking at gear choices and its not very hard to hit an extra 111VIT from gear alone with a double meld body and double meld legs.

What is base VIT/enhancing magic on whm?

My whm goal is whm don't die and whm don't draw trouble.
However, during the poison area, you don't really need to worried about the enmity, so you can have extra gears if you have extra inventory spots.
It's not hard to achieve the regen that cancel out the AV poison

my gears are this:
Vit base (with +23 to vit): 205
Main hand: Wand of Tremors (Vit +3 double melded enmity -10)
Head: Paragon's Crown (Vit +10)
Body: Vintage Robe (melded Vit +16)
Waist: Serpent Sergeant's Belt (Vit +3)
Legs: Felt Gaskins (double melded Vit +16)
Hand: Healer's gloves
Feet: healer's boots
Rings: 2X Amber Ring +1 (+Vit 36)
Wrists: Amber Bracelets (Vit +3)

Up to here Vit 292, enhancement magic 422.

Discussion:

• you don't need to go to 324 vit to get enhance magic 422 since whm has enhance +8. so you don't need to be add like 1xx vit.

• for main hand you can meld +16 vit easily, so it give you lots room to play with. such as single melded leg, Serpent Sergeant's kicks (vit+8 Eva+20), NQ vit rings.

• There are some easy vit food like Arcon cookies (+6 vit), gobs drop them while you farm your Black Pearl +1

So ya. it's very easy to go to 190hp/tick... and the only extra item I bring is my Vit pants... the rest I can use as craft job (Vintage robe) or other classes.

[tachi]

so i messed around looking at gear choices and its not very hard to hit an extra 111VIT from gear alone with a double meld body and double meld legs.

What is base VIT/enhancing magic on whm?

[Sol_Aureus]

so i messed around looking at gear choices and its not very hard to hit an extra 111VIT from gear alone with a double meld body and double meld legs.

What is base VIT/enhancing magic on whm?

Base VIT is 178, not including allotted points. Personally, I have +23 in MND and +22 in VIT making my base VIT 200. This would make my base Enhancing 391, plus the +8 bonus that CNJ's "Greater Enhancing Magic" trait gives me makes it 399.

Again, while stacking VIT seems good for returns, Healing Magic Potency is almost always going to be a better option than stacking VIT. With pieces that give direct bonuses to Enhancing Magic Potency though, it's debatable which to use. You just have to weigh your options and pick whatever suits your playstyle.

[PiedPiper]

Thanks for the info!! So, if i'm reading this correctly, 388 enhancement potency + af boots = capped regen and no further stat increase will offer continued returns? Which, if I'm not mistaken, is a lower number than one has in full AF with a MND/VIT allocation? (I can't check atm due to emergency maintenance). I ask because my current build offers 550 healing potency and I'm pretty happy over all, I just want to be sure I'm getting the full regen potential.

If interested, I'm using: Full AF, Tempest, Blessed Earring, Black Pearl Choker +1, Blessed Ring, MND bracelts +1, MND ring +1. I'm first in line for the dl gloves, but we're yet to see a drop :<


Oh, and about vitality reducing damage taken... 3 vit = 2 def and as complex testing best foudn in the tanking threads has shown... it amounts to almost nothing even in large numbers against high level mobs. This is why naked boss runs are possible. In short, to get to the defense floor on a mob like ifrit you'd need about 2k combined vit def, and really even the best tanks only have about 1.1-1.2k right now... so a whm is never gonna get there, and even if they could their healing potency would be like negative twelve :P If you're thinking about wearing vit to sruvive more hits, don't, it wont work. If you realllllly wanna go that route, get a hp materia. It'll at least improve your blissful mind effect as well.

[Sol_Aureus]

Thanks for the info!! So, if i'm reading this correctly, 388 enhancement potency + af boots = capped regen and no further stat increase will offer continued returns? Which, if I'm not mistaken, is a lower number than one has in full AF with a MND/VIT allocation? (I can't check atm due to emergency maintenance). I ask because my current build offers 550 healing potency and I'm pretty happy over all, I just want to be sure I'm getting the full regen potential.

If interested, I'm using: Full AF, Tempest, Blessed Earring, Black Pearl Choker +1, Blessed Ring, MND bracelts +1, MND ring +1. I'm first in line for the dl gloves, but we're yet to see a drop :<


Oh, and about vitality reducing damage taken... 3 vit = 2 def and as complex testing best foudn in the tanking threads has shown... it amounts to almost nothing even in large numbers against high level mobs. This is why naked boss runs are possible. In short, to get to the defense floor on a mob like ifrit you'd need about 2k combined vit def, and really even the best tanks only have about 1.1-1.2k right now... so a whm is never gonna get there, and even if they could their healing potency would be like negative twelve :P If you're thinking about wearing vit to sruvive more hits, don't, it wont work. If you realllllly wanna go that route, get a hp materia. It'll at least improve your blissful mind effect as well.

Nope, it's 438 enhancing magic potency to reach regen cap with AF boots.

[PiedPiper]

Nope, it's 438 enhancing magic potency to reach regen cap with AF boots.

Lol DERP. I see now, I missread it thinking the first number was enhancing magic when its vit. I dishonor my famiry.

[Signy]

Thanks for the info!.

[Asiaine]

Hello,

I love the information you are supplying here, it is very helpful and kind of you to do so.

But to touch on the topic of gear swap: I used to be an RDM in Vana'diel, so I was doing a LOT of blinking. However, here, it seems this is not a realistic option, for a few reasons:

1) Changing gear here is MUCH slower
2) Changing gear does not always work (I use macro... sometimes it equips boots.. sometimes it does not..) So it can not be trusted
3) Parties run around all the time (they may not wait 2-3 seconds for you to change gear before casting protect).

I understand #3 can be worked on with a party that knows how to work together and co-operates well (but is still troublesome in pick up groups).

But for me, #1 and #2 is so bad that I am hesitant to do any swapping.

Given this (and to tie into the point of this thread) what are your feelings on being a non-blinking-WHM yet still being able to perform well with Enhancing Magic?

Typically I see two WHMs in a party.. maybe one option is one is focused on Enhancing (buffs) and the other is focused on Healing ?

[Sol_Aureus]

Hello,

I love the information you are supplying here, it is very helpful and kind of you to do so.

But to touch on the topic of gear swap: I used to be an RDM in Vana'diel, so I was doing a LOT of blinking. However, here, it seems this is not a realistic option, for a few reasons:

1) Changing gear here is MUCH slower
2) Changing gear does not always work (I use macro... sometimes it equips boots.. sometimes it does not..) So it can not be trusted
3) Parties run around all the time (they may not wait 2-3 seconds for you to change gear before casting protect).

I understand #3 can be worked on with a party that knows how to work together and co-operates well (but is still troublesome in pick up groups).

But for me, #1 and #2 is so bad that I am hesitant to do any swapping.

Given this (and to tie into the point of this thread) what are your feelings on being a non-blinking-WHM yet still being able to perform well with Enhancing Magic?

Typically I see two WHMs in a party.. maybe one option is one is focused on Enhancing (buffs) and the other is focused on Healing ?

I agree that gear swapping in FFXIV isn't really that viable. Like I said in my above post, I have the same problem as your #2 listed problem, which is irritating when it doesn't change back. Still, the bonuses some pieces give are good enough for me to try and make it work.

As for my feelings on being a non-blinking WHM and being able to perform well with Enhancing Magic, it's perfectly viable, and kind of what I recommend and go for myself. It's difficult to really start a set for this without Darklight Gloves at the least though, so start pressuring your Linkshells into running Aurum Vale a lot! Like I said I have 422 Enhancement with my set. I can get 427 with an Amber Ring +1 instead of my Turquoise Ring +1, but I do like my MND bonus I get from the ring. You certainly don't have to be a blinking White Mage to be efficient with enhancing, I just figure since protect is a 5 minute buff, if there's anything that's semi-viable to blink on, it's that.

I would not recommend splitting the 2 WHMs into an Enhancing WHM and a Healing WHM. All WHMs should have a decent Enhancing Magic level because Regen is so important. Communicate with your other WHM and find out if someone has substantially more Enhancing than the other, like for example since I have Darklight gloves and breeches, I have the 2 pieces that boost my enhancing the most, so my buffs are much more potent than another WHMs who does not have this gear. As such I usually let the other WHM know that I'll take Protect and Stoneskin when we stop for buffs, they take Regen and I throw a single target Regen on the tank since mine is more potent.

That being said, in the midst of battle I still let the other WHM do their thing, they can recast protect and Stoneskin and AoE Regen and all that all they want, their stuff is still plenty potent. I tend to stick with healing the tank, since my bonuses to Regen, Protect, and Stoneskin benefit the tank the most, so if you do want to go with an Enhancing Magic build, try and put yourself in the Tank healer's role.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

When you're taking damage with the stacked VIT, does it seem like it's about the same amount as without the stacking?