Thread: 5.1 Crafting Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Maeka

Or maybe I was not able to, because of IRL obligations? And besides, there's a point where established crafters were always going to "win" no matter what, and regardless of what work a new player entering the ring puts in, they are never going to catch up without some sort of re-balancing (which is what 5.1 was). You could put all the work possible in, and still never catch up to those people who had 9-digit figure bank accounts who already ruled the MB.

well, I first started crafting when ARR artisans gear was a big deal, right? there were only like maybe...5-6 top crafters with loads of Gil? ruling the market and pushing out anyone who entered the marketboard. back then, I was working a 9 - 5 job, and took my classes online. I gathered my butt off, to earn enough gil so I could level my crafters and gatherers, and even calculated effort spent VS time spent on certain things, and made prices through spreadsheets. I had to work really hard to compete with those top crafters, ya know. it took months to get there, but I got there. you just have to want it badly, trust me on this.

to have all that hard work and dedication removed, and yoshida/the dev team giving you the middle finger, really gets to you and makes you just lose hope for the future of the game. I know choosing the player base that nets the largest income is best, but the players you choose to ignore (the competitive hardcore peeps) will just get super depressed and not enjoy your game anymore.

and I understand not many people are willing to go through so much trouble just for some video game prestige, but for some people, myself included, it was a way to escape reality and show off how good you really are if you put your mind to it. i mean, that’s why most of us play right? to escape reality and have fun. end result was, billions of Gil, and the knowledge of making my own rotations. (I lost my passion for crafting in this game due to the unnecessary easy difficulty in everything. but when I did have passion, I went at it hard!) like I said, I’m glad you and others enjoy crafting now, but what I think JoJoya is trying to say is that for most people, not including you it seems, is that....if you didn’t enjoy crafting then, you won’t stick with it for long now.

Originally Posted by Nandrolone

well, I first started crafting when ARR artisans gear was a big deal, right? there were only like maybe...5-6 top crafters with loads of Gil? ruling the market and pushing out anyone who entered the marketboard. back then, I was working a 9 - 5 job, and took my classes online. I gathered my butt off, to earn enough gil so I could level my crafters and gatherers, and even calculated effort spent VS time spent on certain things, and made prices through spreadsheets. I had to work really hard to compete with those top crafters, ya know. it took months to get there, but I got there. you just have to want it badly, trust me on this.

to have all that hard work and dedication removed, and yoshida/the dev team giving you the middle finger, really gets to you and makes you just lose hope for the future of the game. I know choosing the player base that nets the largest income is best, but the players you choose to ignore (the competitive hardcore peeps) will just get super depressed and not enjoy your game anymore.

and I understand not many people are willing to go through so much trouble just for some video game prestige, but for some people, myself included, it was a way to escape reality and show off how good you really are if you put your mind to it. i mean, that’s why most of us play right? to escape reality and have fun. end result was, billions of Gil, and the knowledge of making my own rotations. (I lost my passion for crafting in this game due to the unnecessary easy difficulty in everything. but when I did have passion, I went at it hard!) like I said, I’m glad you and others enjoy crafting now, but what I think JoJoya is trying to say is that for most people, not including you it seems, is that....if you didn’t enjoy crafting then, you won’t stick with it for long now.

Wrong on so many levels you want people to understand your end then understand theirs. Not everyone crafts for gil and Bragging rights some of us do it simply cause we enjoy it. Not everyone cares about your accomplishments either there are players who would call you a no lifer for doing spreadsheets for it. I have been crafting since ARR busting my rear as hard as any hardcore crafter as I struggled with the system.

As for expert recipes they wont remain hardcore only for long. Theory crafters will have stats, rotations and how to change the rotation when the proc happens out with a month or two of patch 5.2. Just like ARR days people released rotations and how to respond to conditions all you need was the gear, which unlike then is easier too get now.