Thread: 5.1 Crafting Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by KageTokage

A quality over quantity system would've worked out better in general.

It's less of a grind if there's a limit to how many turn-ins you can make weekly and it gives the bots less of an advantage to boot.

The slides make it sound like the quality over quantity is the route they are taking.

Please feel free to participate without pushing yourself too hard.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5260167

Kinda weird that they want to let ANY DoH class Meld materia, but yet not Repair.

That just seems strange to me. Hopefully that was just something they forgot to mention.

Originally Posted by Cleanse

The slides make it sound like the quality over quantity is the route they are taking.

It sounds more like the short ranking periods are what's intended to reduce the "stress" level from them, though regardless of how short they are the cheaters are still going to dominate a quantity over quality system.

Originally Posted by Jojoya

There was no reference to quality in the live letter. The references was to quantity.

They always encourage players to enjoy content without pushing themselves hard. Telling us to participate without pushing hard is not the same as telling us we will have an equal chance to reach the top whether we push hard or not.

Then again, those who bot certainly aren't pushing themselves hard. Perhaps it was a hint that if you intend to get rewards out of the leaderboards, make certain you have a bot ready to do the work for you so you don't have to push yourself hard?

I see, I was hoping the LL Digest would have clarified the message that was relayed in Japanese. Time to start coding.

Still hoping the leader board will be based on quality (which can take a lot of 'tries') and the quantity of turnins is for buying new scrip rewards at a casual pace.

Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'd still like it better if players could repair gear for other players though if they allowed any correct level DoH to repair items from all DoH, that would probably end up working just as well. Players who just want access to repair their own gear would only have to level a single class.

Indeed, this would be awesome as you could just grab whatever class, and be able to Meld *and* Repair your gear instead of having to level the whole shebang. That would be quite nice, that way only players who actually want to level all the crafts would feel the pressure to do so.

And it would help a ton as far as alts go, it's the #1 reason why I won't play alts much, because then I think about how much leveling I would have to do, just to reduce repair costs and annoyances (since you can repair to 200% durability which makes it last twice as long between repairs), I end up going "meh" and losing interest in the idea of playing an alt.

Originally Posted by Maeka

And it would help a ton as far as alts go, it's the #1 reason why I won't play alts much, because then I think about how much leveling I would have to do, just to reduce repair costs and annoyances (since you can repair to 200% durability which makes it last twice as long between repairs), I end up going "meh" and losing interest in the idea of playing an alt.

It doesn't reduce costs significantly since you still have to buy the right Dark Matter. We don't tend to remember that we have to pay for that. Based on repairs I was getting with an alt that wasn't able to repair their gear, the cost is similar though repair yourself is slightly less because of the greater efficiency. I didn't start leveling DoH on that character because of repair, I did it because I missed being able to craft on her to make gil.

And it doesn't actually repair to 200% durability. It adds 100% durability when you repair yourself as opposed to the mender repairing to 100% durability. If my gear is at 40% when I get around to repairing it, it will increase to 140% not 200%.

But it absolutely does reduce annoyance. You don't need to remember to visit a mender and you're not going to have the "oh crap" moment when you join a group in an instance just to notice your gear is at 15%. You can repair on the spot and not worry (again assuming you haven't run out of Dark Matter).

Originally Posted by Jojoya

It doesn't reduce costs significantly since you still have to buy the right Dark Matter. We don't tend to remember that we have to pay for that. Based on repairs I was getting with an alt that wasn't able to repair their gear, the cost is similar though repair yourself is slightly less because of the greater efficiency. I didn't start leveling DoH on that character because of repair, I did it because I missed being able to craft on her to make gil.

And it doesn't actually repair to 200% durability. It adds 100% durability when you repair yourself as opposed to the mender repairing to 100% durability. If my gear is at 40% when I get around to repairing it, it will increase to 140% not 200%.

But it absolutely does reduce annoyance. You don't need to remember to visit a mender and you're not going to have the "oh crap" moment when you join a group in an instance just to notice your gear is at 15%. You can repair on the spot and not worry (again assuming you haven't run out of Dark Matter).

1). You can get Dark Matter with other currencies other than gil (though admittedly it's rather expensive to do so),
2). Adding 100% is better than repairing to 100%. Sometimes I like to repair as soon as I see green bars just so I get 190%+ so I don't have to repair again for a good long time.

And, IIRC, buying Dark Matters is cheaper than paying the mender. I could be wrong on that though, I suppose. I know that 99 Dark Matters are 19,800 gil (200 each) and I'm fairly sure that when I was forced to use a repair NPC, some of my items wanted 400+ gil to repair. That's more than double the cost.