Instanced Housing. We're angry!

[Angellos]

Too many of us have FOUGHT tooth and nail to try and obtain a medium or large house for our FC because we have too many members for a small house to accomodate our needs. Every other game with GREAT housing has INSTANCED housing. We still had that neighborhood feel to it so allow me to make my argument.

1. In the last four years, even after spending every day outside of my small FC house, only THREE PEOPLE have ever walked up and said hello. Only one of which I made friends with. What neighborhood feel? Staring at someone else's ugly paissa house?

2. XIV has seen a massive influx of players making it even more difficult to obtain housing. Mateus, Balmung and similar servers are full within minutes of housing becoming available and it will be months to a year before we see a tiny amount of new wards added. There is the funding for server space with the new influx of game purchases, store purchases and new subs. Expand server space to allow for VASTLY increased wards on full servers if you refuse to implement instanced wards.

3. You can have BOTH. If you are determined to keep regular housing wards, so be it. All that we ask is that you include ONE special ward of INSTANCED housing for those of us who don't care about seeing our neighbor's yard decorations. It would allow all of those homeless FC's to obtain not only -a- house, but the SIZE Of house that their FC needs to accommodate their play styles.
3a. How would it work? You would click the Plaque and choose who's house you want to visit. (You can allow visitors, or keep your estate locked.) Once you choose the person's name, it teleports you just outside of the front gate. You can still have your yard decorations! The door, rather than being the instance, will simply swing open like any other door (Or click to open it for the front door maybe.) The only challenge I foresee with this are the private rooms but I'm sure your talented team can figure it out.

This is flat out ridiculous and unacceptable quite frankly. ShB is amazing, so amazing that perhaps it's raising our standards for the game completely. Please stop letting housing be a blight. Please let housing be ENJOYABLE for everyone instead of the select few with lightning fast internet, SSD's and lucky enough to not encounter a server error.

[Kenky]

Apartments.

Nobody's angry but you.

1. So people not being around your house means there's no neighborhood anywhere else? Like.. Anywhere in the game, period? Well, damn. Gotta run stuff by you more often then. (sarcasm)

2.Once again, another person that doesn't understand why infinite wards can't be a thing. It's not server space, it's not "hardware limitations". It's Server-burden and how the server interprets and transfers data. Do some research.

3.Why make two completely separate housing systems, exactly? To appease a small group that cannot be bothered to deal with the current way of things? Boo hoo, I guess? Instanced Housing wouldn't be any better than Ward housing, infact it'd be even worse purely because it'd still take up the same amount of data, the same amount of server-burden. Just without a street to walk down and instead, just staring into an ugly abyss. Yeah, brilliant trade-off.

Ridiculous? Probably. Unacceptable? Well, you said yourself that on Mateus, Balmung and other "similar servers" are bought up within moments of there being new houses. So I guess it isn't as unacceptable as you think. Housing isn't a blight, you're just too obsessed with it.

[Angellos]

Apartments.

Nobody's angry but you.

1. So people not being around your house means there's no neighborhood anywhere else? Like.. Anywhere in the game, period? Well, damn. Gotta run stuff by you more often then. (sarcasm)

2.Once again, another person that doesn't understand why infinite wards can't be a thing. It's not server space, it's not "hardware limitations". It's Server-burden and how the server interprets and transfers data. Do some research.

3.Why make two completely separate housing systems, exactly? To appease a small group that cannot be bothered to deal with the current way of things? Boo hoo, I guess? Instanced Housing wouldn't be any better than Ward housing, infact it'd be even worse purely because it'd still take up the same amount of data, the same amount of server-burden. Just without a street to walk down and instead, just staring into an ugly abyss. Yeah, brilliant trade-off.

Ridiculous? Probably. Unacceptable? Well, you said yourself that on Mateus, Balmung and other "similar servers" are bought up within moments of there being new houses. So I guess it isn't as unacceptable as you think. Housing isn't a blight, you're just too obsessed with it.

Just because YOU aren't mad doesn't mean people aren't angry. There's lots of people, in game, on these forums, who are right PISSED. You can white knight all that you want for 'why it can't happen' and buy some crock of an excuse but I went through Cisco, did you? There are plenty of other games who have zero issue with housing allocation for EVERYONEYou have obviously never played RIFT, EverQuest 1 or EverQuest II because people are perfectly content with their housing system. No one here is HAPPY with the housing system other than those who were fortunate enough to not get server lobby errors, who have 100 million gil to get a medium house by buying someone else's FC, or just plain got lucky enough to get a bigger house.

The people who have been trying for literal YEARS to get into a medium and still don't have one (Today, they got eaten up by individuals. Not even FC's in the first FORTY FIVE SECONDS OF LAUNCH ON BALMUNG) - Those people? We're pissed. Don't call it a feature if everyone can't enjoy it as long as they've worked for it. We can't even get lucky to find one open after a demo because of the ridiculous RNG timer. You can spam click it for 24 straight hours and still lose it to someone who had luckier timing than you.

[Arazehl]

Just because YOU aren't mad doesn't mean people aren't angry. There's lots of people, in game, on these forums, who are right PISSED. You can white knight all that you want for 'why it can't happen' and buy some crock of an excuse but I went through Cisco, did you? There are plenty of other games who have zero issue with housing allocation for EVERYONEYou have obviously never played RIFT, EverQuest 1 or EverQuest II because people are perfectly content with their housing system. No one here is HAPPY with the housing system other than those who were fortunate enough to not get server lobby errors, who have 100 million gil to get a medium house by buying someone else's FC, or just plain got lucky enough to get a bigger house.

The people who have been trying for literal YEARS to get into a medium and still don't have one (Today, they got eaten up by individuals. Not even FC's in the first FORTY FIVE SECONDS OF LAUNCH ON BALMUNG) - Those people? We're pissed. Don't call it a feature if everyone can't enjoy it as long as they've worked for it. We can't even get lucky to find one open after a demo because of the ridiculous RNG timer. You can spam click it for 24 straight hours and still lose it to someone who had luckier timing than you.

I am not sure who "we" are but I agree with the server strain and the lag. I have played both Everquest 1 and Everquest 2 for nearly 10 years, the lag of the instanced housing was horrendous. Load times were a nightmare to even zone into the instance. People could put as much junk in their instance housing as they wanted, which was a worse mistake and contributed to make housing matters even worse in EQ1 or EQ2. Players of EQ could buy as many instances they had platinum coins for and you say that they had the way of things? Pffft, please!

Let me say, I understand the frustration, I don't understand why you think you should have what you want when you want it. Many of us have been through that same frustrations when it comes to getting the proper size housing for our FC. We started out with a small. The next time wards were added we moved to a medium and then a large, so yeah we did it in stages starting in 2016. We did it legitimately, without using the loop holes and deceptive practices that some others took to obtain their house(s). "Worked for it"? "My FC worked for it", not you. You want what you want in "an instance" literally., it seems No pun intended.

You have to start at the bottom and work you're way up if you expect to get things you want. The rest is a bit of luck and fate. Getting off your high horse, would be a good beginning. Start by getting a small maybe and then you can relocate. Expecting a large with the way you're going about it, isn't going to net you one.

[Nix]

You have to start at the bottom and work you're way up if you expect to get things you want. The rest is a bit of luck and fate. Getting off your high horse, would be a good beginning. Start by getting a small maybe and then you can relocate. Expecting a large with the way you're going about it, isn't going to net you one.

Your personal attack is absolutely unnecessary. Their FC has a small already - they are trying to work their way up.

[LaylaTsarra]

You can white knight all that you want

These type of comments and I stop reading what you have to say. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't qualify them as a white knight.

[Ftail]

Nobody's angry but you.

Have you not seen how many complaint threads the housing forum constantly gets and has gotten over the years?

[Strywin]

Have you not seen how many complaint threads the housing forum constantly gets and has gotten over the years?

Yes they have, because they only mostly reply to threads like these housing ones to tell people to cry more, get good, nothing wrong with housing or quit and stuff like that.

[Nix]

Yes they have, because they only mostly reply to threads like these housing ones to tell people to cry more, get good, nothing wrong with housing or quit and stuff like that.

Pretty much. I'm yet to see any constructive arguments, but lately feel like all they do is attack people for things out of their control.

[Arazehl]

Pretty much. I'm yet to see any constructive arguments, but lately feel like all they do is attack people for things out of their control.

Actually you are right Nix. I turned it into a personal attack since OP was referencing WE so much. This however is an old argument from way back when. The old fight I fought once long ago, but only for myself with my own opinions and ideas. Never did I speak for others. It's not my right. I also know two of the four games he referenced in regards to instance housing. I know them well. Very poor examples. Plus attitude toward arguments of others has no place here if they can't keep their anger in check. Kicking and screaming never really accomplished much. Also the many lobby errors I suffered through on launch day, when Shirogane housing was added, eventually I managed to get a large for my FC (started with a small). With determination it eventually will happen, since this is how housing IS for now. OP seems to want instant everything and now in his argument, just going about it all the wrong way, over one of the oldest arguments in existence. Very tiresome.