Instanced Housing. We're angry!

[Nix]

there is always a small house available somewhere, just like in real life you have to start somewhere.

Except when the only small house that's available is the first one to show up in a week and has 10+ campers using bots/macros to try to obtain it~ (Hello, Hyperion!)

It's not a case of people refusing to settle, it's a case that some can't get the small that they're trying for, and have missed out on countless houses and spent hours upon hours camping for it. I wish people would stop trying to claim that players are lazy when the truth of it is that there aren't enough houses for those that want them on some servers. Jumping ship isn't always an option either - they may have well-established friend groups etc. that keep them tied to a server.
I'm saying this as someone who started with a small, and ended up with a large house for myself and for my FC. I will be the first to admit that it wasn't "hard work" that got the houses - it was an obscene amount of luck, and that's not right.

[Losara]

Most FFXIV players these days know the only way to get a Medium / Large house is via relocations. Its impossible to get one waiting out timers.

I haven't personally had an issue finding the occasional Medium house to relocate into by actively searching and Behemoth used to be congested not too long ago. If you're really serious about obtaining a Medium / Large house you'll probably want to swap out of Mateus since it is a congested server. You can be on the same data centre so you can still catch up with people you know but nowadays apart from FCs and housing theres no real need to be tied to any particular server since you can world visit.

My advice is to wait for Ishgard housing. That will open up at least 21 new wards of housing which is more than we got with the combined 19-21 wards in 5.1. There will probably be a lot of people attempting to purchase into Ishgard which should free up housing in other areas which can simple be relocated into.

[rattles]

All the complainers (or at least most) seem to be I didn't get a large house because mr X over here got it i'm more entitled than X so don't let X have a house. These complaints will never get support as most people want to opportunity to buy a house without having to be in a fc. Locking people out of content so your social circle can have priority isn't an excuse you get all the benefits from a small than with you do with a large and there's a ton of small plots out there.

The problem isnt individuals or re-locations its simple supply and demand. There's too much demand and too little supply and its clear people don't want smalls as servers are full of them especially in the new wards. Maybe if SE make more wards and instances down the road they increase the number of larges and mediums maybe even stop making smalls to add more medium and larges.

Imagine if they make Ishgard houses and it was just mediums and larges. They could have 12 Larges per ward and the rest Mediums that would be at least 252 larges and the fc's / Individuals that still somehow don't get one can get an individual house.

So in conclusion to this rant that I wrote because this topic keeps getting bombarded in the forums rather than Bash on people who relocated such as myself request SE change the housing structure to accommodate more medium and larges. That way we dont need instance housing (which imo is a terrible idea as all social aspects of housing would be dead) and we can stop having these i'm more entitled than that person for a property because I have a FC.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I see zero issue with instanced housing. As suggested u go to the plaque to bring up a list of the plots occupants and go inside. There is little to no community/neighbourhood feel in the wards as it is. Many of the large/med plots are being kept by players who arent even actively playing. They jus dont wanna lose the house so pop in now and again. If you have 10 FC's in one large mansion plot BOY are you gonna meet a lot of new people and actually feel like you have neighbours about!
Have a random house load in on each plot to keep things looking unique.

I would still say I'm a newer player, I'm newer still to housing even. And the struggle to buy my first small plot was horrendous. I only got my first one out of sheer luck waking up early one morning. Housing is a feature I really enjoy and it's part of what made me sub and buy the game, so finding out how rare and difficult it is to buy a large plot was really disheartening for me. Now before the 5.1 maint I lucked out and found a large plot free and moved to it. Hurray for me! But I have no intention of losing that plot. It's gonna be another that's locked down for a LONG time. And it's just not nice to know that while there are so many who would like this kind of house and can afford it cannot get it.

There is no issue with instanced housing this idea that it will kill a community seems absurd to me and the only other reason against I have heard was from my FC leader, "I want people to look at our FC house and say damn I wish I had that" It's pure selfishness.

SE could monetize housing pretty well if they tried, my old guild members from another game spent A LOT of rl money on housing items. They would happily buy all that mog station furniture they wanted, then ofc be paying a sub and buying the expansions. Make a lot of items, have em be cheap enough u can buy enough for ur large plot and all those tiny purchases will add up quick across so many players. So long as they kept new furniture availible in game first then adding to mog station later I see no issue with it.

[Kuro_Mao]

The problem isnt individuals or re-locations its simple supply and demand. There's too much demand and too little supply and its clear people don't want smalls as servers are full of them especially in the new wards.

I would love to like this post for this statement, but simply I can't. This is clearly draconian architecture meant to supply an "Elite system" similar to the worlds upper 1/2%. SE had stated this several times, and doesn't want to change it. Yoshi P may have used better words, but no matter how you dress something, it is what it is.



I feel bad for the OP, I really do. They fell victim to a draconian system. I worked in title Insurance about 11 years. The i's weren't dotted, and that information is there just not recent. I wish your other half for better wellness and I hope all of us keep them in prayers on that front.



I will say though, Many people would have slammed you for attempting to succeed and announcing it ahead of time with a post early, but always ask for help ahead of time. It's easy to ignore text on a screen, and you'll be shocked at who posts to actually help.

[DamianFatale]

I honestly gave up on ever trying to get a house. It triggers my anxiety too much to fight over plots in the way that we have to on Crystal. I'm over it and going to be content with my apartment until a house is actually a lot easier to obtain. Maybe in Ishgard.

[TheForce]

@OP, gonna reply specifically to your final paragraph. I play on PS4 and had no problem getting my estate. Many others have as well. In fact, every single person in my FC is on PS4 and they have their own houses too. Stop trying to use made-up hyperboles to try and prove a point; unlike you, I won't speak for everybody, but when I read stuff like that, I will NEVER take the post or argument seriously, it's nothing more than a rant littered with personal bias.

[TheForce]

Bullshit.

Lots of us are angry.

And apartments are useless. When you can explain how I can make 100m a month selling onions with an apartment, I'll accept that it's "as good".

You don't understand how this works. The reason why people are able to make that money via T.Onions is because estates are required for them AND the crops that must be intercrossed for them, thus increasing its rarity
& value. If individuals were allowed to grow T. Onions with an apartment, the price would TANK, because there would be a surplus. Supply & Demand.

[Nix]

You don't understand how this works. The reason why people are able to make that money via T.Onions is because estates are required for them AND the crops that must be intercrossed for them, thus increasing its rarity
& value. If individuals were allowed to grow T. Onions with an apartment, the price would TANK, because there would be a surplus. Supply & Demand.

I think you may have missed his point <_>

[Jojoya]

I think you may have missed his point <_>

He expressed his point very poorly when he uses an exaggeration that can't happen. Thavnairian Onion seeds don't appear on a whim and the onions don't grow overnight.

Not to mention he's perfectly capable of growing the onions himself if he has an apartment. Growing an onion just takes the seed from the MB, a Potting Soil, a flower pot and the ability to log in for 10 consecutive days without fail to tend the plant as it grows.

What he can't do is intercross to get the seed. But if he really wants to grow the seeds himself, it would be nice for him to have the opportunity.

I just hope he understands that it takes 5 days of intercrossing to produce the seeds that then need to intercross for 7 days to produce the Onion seeds.

That those intercrosses are subject to RNG so you might get a different (and usually unwanted) seed than the one you need.

That you'll want to be using Grade 3 Thanalan topsoil or you risk getting no seeds at all (and it's still not a guarantee with the Grade 3 topsoil though I'd say it's about 90% successful).

That you have to log in daily to tend everything while it's growing. Miss logging in for a single day and you're likely to come back to dead plants.

You can shortcut the process a bit by buying the needed seeds from others but most of them are also fairly expensive on the MB because of the time needed to grow and the RNG factor of getting a different type of seed instead. And buying those things cuts into the profit margin if you're planning to grow for profit not personal/FC use.

There's a reason why so few players bother with intercross gardening even if they have a house.