Crafting Changes Kill Crafting

[RyuSaarva]

I was worried too, but I didn't find myself failing any more than before.

congratz, you have great luck, I stopped using rapid synthesis when I failed 5 times in a row.

[Acesfool]

It looks like you can still macro things to HQ just as easily as you could before.

Only one I've seen is for 2 star 80 durability items and requires you to be completely melded to the hilt and using HQ Blood Boulabaisse and Craftsman's Syrup.

[Mightion]

I just tried some of the new crafting, and failed miserably, and am somewhat confused.

I'm basically using all 430 crafted gear + secondary item, all overmelded, plus my three specialists (ARM, BSM and GSM) have 440 primary. When overmelding, I aimed for Craftsmanship and Control; only able to get 2 CP overmelds on the left side...
My stats top out at 2289 Craftmanship for ARM, slightly less for BSM and GSM, Control is in the 2161-2174 range, while my CP is 482. :/
I'm using Popotoes au Gratin for food..
I don't use macros.. though am now open to it..

I basically have very low chance at crafting any of the new subcombines, much less the final items anywhere near a decent HQ chance - I wasted a lot of mats trying to make a facet pickaxe... which came out NQ and worthless.

I saw someone in Eulmore with two overmelds on their 430 jacket, but the game will not let me attempt to put on a 4th gem.

What am I doing wrong? I'm guessing my CP is low, but if I remeld for that, my control and craftsmanship will go down, too. How are people getting the levels of CP/craft/control I see in some 5.1 macros I looked up?

[RyuSaarva]

I just tried some of the new crafting, and failed miserably, and am somewhat confused.

I'm basically using all 430 crafted gear + secondary item, all overmelded, plus my three specialists (ARM, BSM and GSM) have 440 primary. When overmelding, I aimed for Craftsmanship and Control; only able to get 2 CP overmelds on the left side...
My stats top out at 2289 Craftmanship for ARM, slightly less for BSM and GSM, Control is in the 2161-2174 range, while my CP is 482. :/
I'm using Popotoes au Gratin for food..
I don't use macros.. though am now open to it..

I basically have very low chance at crafting any of the new subcombines, much less the final items anywhere near a decent HQ chance - I wasted a lot of mats trying to make a facet pickaxe... which came out NQ and worthless.

I saw someone in Eulmore with two overmelds on their 430 jacket, but the game will not let me attempt to put on a 4th gem.

What am I doing wrong? I'm guessing my CP is low, but if I remeld for that, my control and craftsmanship will go down, too. How are people getting the levels of CP/craft/control I see in some 5.1 macros I looked up?

you are trying to the meld wrong materia, read the item info, you can only overmeld 1 VI or VIII and the rest can be any other tier, also you don't need to use any VIII or VII at all anyway to make the new facet set easily, I only had VI on the open slot and VI overmelded once and after that I had V and IV and III on accessories as the last materia, tools only had 1 overmeld materia for cp also stromblood bis crafting food which gives you about 50 cp and control was good enough, did not even need to use the slightly better shadowbringers cp food.

don't copy random internet rotations and make you own if you use different food or melds and don't start testing your rotation on items which have expensive mats, start with the previous tier items, they are only slightly easier.

[Mightion]

you are trying to the meld wrong materia, read the item info, you can only overmeld 1 VI or VIII and the rest can be any other tier, also you don't need to use any VIII or VII at all anyway to make the new facet set easily, I only had VI on the open slot and VI overmelded once and after that I had V and IV and III on accessories as the last materia, tools only had 1 overmeld materia for cp also stromblood bis crafting food which gives you about 50 cp and control was good enough, did not even need to use the slightly better shadowbringers cp food.

don't copy random internet rotations and make you own if you use different food or melds and don't start testing your rotation on items which have expensive mats, start with the previous tier items, they are only slightly easier.

Figures it was staring me in the face (The VII vs VIII/VI); this should help.

[aesteval]

My stats top out at 2289 Craftmanship for ARM, slightly less for BSM and GSM, Control is in the 2161-2174 range, while my CP is 482. :/
I'm using Popotoes au Gratin for food..
I don't use macros.. though am now open to it..

When you meld you want to cap CP. It may not be the first materia that you meld into each gear piece, but you want to plan to max out your CP.

Craftsmanship is a bit nebulous to identify exactly how much you want to meld. First requirement is the minimum craftsmanship to be able to even attempt that recipe. Beyond that you'll need to make sure you have enough craftsmanship to fit all your progress into a desired number of synth steps. Just do not over do melding craftsmanship.

And then toss everything else into control.

[aesteval]

Only one I've seen is for 2 star 80 durability items and requires you to be completely melded to the hilt and using HQ Blood Boulabaisse and Craftsman's Syrup.

Top tier HQ food and HQ potion / syrup should be baseline when you're crafting top tier recipes. It shouldn't be a surprise or out of place that they're expected.

[aesteval]

don't copy random internet rotations and make you own if you use different food or melds and don't start testing your rotation on items which have expensive mats, start with the previous tier items, they are only slightly easier.

Additionally, CUL recipes have the stat requirements for equivalent level as the other crafters, but tend to be easier to handle the mats for. I like doing my test runs on CUL.

[LalafellDown]

Love this new crafting change. Easier and less boring. I’m actually enjoying crafting.

[Acesfool]

Top tier HQ food and HQ potion / syrup should be baseline when you're crafting top tier recipes. It shouldn't be a surprise or out of place that they're expected.

I don't disagree. But my original point was they don't want you to macro your way to max level anymore.