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    Roth_Trailfinder's Avatar
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Guys, you make your own rotation by trying to craft. When you find one that works, repeatedly, that’s what you make into your own macro.

    You don’t should not have to wait for others to produce a macro for you; if everyone did that everyone would be waiting around in vain. Be the pioneer, make your own rotation and your own macro!
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    Jimmymagic's Avatar
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    Hector Dragonslayer
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Guys, you make your own rotation by trying to craft. When you find one that works, repeatedly, that’s what you make into your own macro.

    You don’t should not have to wait for others to produce a macro for you; if everyone did that everyone would be waiting around in vain. Be the pioneer, make your own rotation and your own macro!
    or don't use macros for crafting at all....cheaters lol
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    It's so confusing now have no clue how craft high end item anymore. They need to change it back to how it was. They removed way to many skills that you need. If had to rate new crafting I would give it 1/2 star out of 5.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    It's so confusing now have no clue how craft high end item anymore. They need to change it back to how it was. They removed way to many skills that you need. If had to rate new crafting I would give it 1/2 star out of 5.
    Only thing we lost that I was using regularly was Comfort Zone and no longer needing to spend CP on Steady Hand makes up for it.

    What was removed that you feel is needed?
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Only thing we lost that I was using regularly was Comfort Zone and no longer needing to spend CP on Steady Hand makes up for it.

    What was removed that you feel is needed?
    No you lost cross skills, you lost skill that increase's quality 150% now need good to use it. Better look again because my hot bar had over 12 skills blacked out and we now don't have. They cut total skill by half of what we had.
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    No you lost cross skills, you lost skill that increase's quality 150% now need good to use it. Better look again because my hot bar had over 12 skills blacked out and we now don't have. They cut total skill by half of what we had.
    Waste not is still there and that was a cross skill from Leatherworker. A big change was all the specialist ones being gone which I never even touched to be fair. Ingenuity got buffed and it's really good now. Right now I've been using Waste not 2, Ingenuity, Prepatory touch, been working fine with making things High quality. You'll get a hang of it soon. I don't see that big of a loss with this new crafting method. It's actually a QoL since I don't need to have 5 hot bars worth of crafting skills on my screen.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    No you lost cross skills, you lost skill that increase's quality 150% now need good to use it. Better look again because my hot bar had over 12 skills blacked out and we now don't have. They cut total skill by half of what we had.
    You probably should look at your spellbook again. You still have:

    Hasty Touch
    Rapid Synthesis
    Tricks of the Trade
    Ingenuity
    Waste Not
    Innovation
    Waste Not II
    Muscle Memory
    Careful Synthesis

    We lost Comfort Zone, Rumination and Ingenuity II. Loss of Comfort Zone is offset by most actions getting success rate boosted to 100% so we are no longer spending CP on Steady Hand. Rumination was rarely useful except at lower levels when you didn't have Byregot's Blessing to consume your Inner Quiet stacks. Ingenuity II was no more effective at 80 than Ingenuity so no one was using it (I hope).

    If you were using Advanced Touch on end game crafts, you were wasting CP that could have been used better.

    What we mainly lost was the unnecessary button bloat filling up bars with things we shouldn't have been using for end game crafts in the first place. Take this as an opportunity to review the actions we have and refine your crafting techniques because I assure you than end game crafting is more than possible with the actions we now have. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be seeing all that HQ Facet gear hitting the MB.
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    Ruby Wesson
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Blokeymon View Post
    This thread.

    What I'm seeing: "Changes have killed crafting:

    What I'm hearing:" I got a friend to craft me all the items needed to leveboost my crafters so now I don't really know how crafting actually works, and the friend who made me all my crafting macros has taken a break, and I don't understand the new skill tooltips enough to write my own, so I'll just blame SE instead because clearly it's THEIR fault."

    Also, what is Manipulation, Waste Not, and Preparatory Touch?
    lol, so true.

    Nothing wrong with crafting as it stands now as this person pointed out:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You probably should look at your spellbook again. You still have:

    Hasty Touch
    Rapid Synthesis
    Tricks of the Trade
    Ingenuity
    Waste Not
    Innovation
    Waste Not II
    Muscle Memory
    Careful Synthesis

    We lost Comfort Zone, Rumination and Ingenuity II. Loss of Comfort Zone is offset by most actions getting success rate boosted to 100% so we are no longer spending CP on Steady Hand. Rumination was rarely useful except at lower levels when you didn't have Byregot's Blessing to consume your Inner Quiet stacks. Ingenuity II was no more effective at 80 than Ingenuity so no one was using it (I hope).

    If you were using Advanced Touch on end game crafts, you were wasting CP that could have been used better.

    What we mainly lost was the unnecessary button bloat filling up bars with things we shouldn't have been using for end game crafts in the first place. Take this as an opportunity to review the actions we have and refine your crafting techniques because I assure you than end game crafting is more than possible with the actions we now have. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be seeing all that HQ Facet gear hitting the MB.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    A handful of the cross class skills went away, most of them became skills that every class now gets. You lost the ability to equip them earlier then you could earn them, which only affects people currently leveling who pushed a few classes way above the others for bonus skills. And you lost the ability to buff the chance to succeed on hasty and rapid. You gained 100% success rates on most of your touches and synths, you no longer need to level classes for CC skills(just if you want to make meld or repair their things now), and they trimmed a lot of excess skills. Ive made about a dozen of the 2star recipes(along with a decent amount of lower level stuff that wasnt even remotely challenging) since the change went through, and had no issues at all. The skills and tricks i used a month ago are still working just fine.
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    Blokeymon Kenobi
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Imagine having risk/reward in a game.

    Just imagine.

    Also, this.
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    Last edited by Blokeymon; 11-09-2019 at 02:57 AM.

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