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    Thaeros's Avatar
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    Fefnir Eindraer
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    Crafting Changes Kill Crafting

    <hmm title should have been: "From an Omnicrafter" but my brain's raging fury typed what is actually there>

    Okay who thought any of this was good? Seriously?

    1. No steady hand + No reclaim = Rapid Syn + Hasty Touch put in trash can. No way am I going to risk losing potentially HOURS of material gathering on a 50%-60% success rate with a ZERO chance of getting my mats back on a RNG slap across the face.

    2. You guys made this MORE macro friendly, not less. Most things are success near guaranteed, those that aren't are trash canned, plus no claim. What? HQ gathering items into crafting mats was a pain where rapid syn and hasty touch were needed, now that is not going to happen. Still trying to figure out how to do that.

    3. LOL that rapid syn trait bumping the advancement to 500% but still keeping it a 50% chance of working. You know what this translates to? SE slapping you in the face or LOLing at you for actually using rapid syn instead of trash canning it.

    4. Less bloat is wonderful, however the rapid syn + hasty touch thing is lemminged off the cliff (just go ahead and remove these skills you will see NOONE using them as they are).

    *5. And no comfort zone :/

    {im glad im not a low level crafter. I imagine crafting HQ for GC or rowen is a freakin nightmare with skill cp being the same and CP only getting good as your level goes up. I remember using that 50+ free stack skill for free +40 completion in an effort to get more CP from comfort zone repeated usages. well no more for that. did that until level 70. glad Im 80 havent done that in ShB. rip you low levels}

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    Patient touch is also 50% so no extra stacks of inner quiet. No rapid syn at 300%, so I'm stuck with 120% or 150%. No master mend 2 for +60 duribility for 92 (got 30 for 88).

    So how is making crafting more accessible? Note new items have quality of 44,450 and completion of 6700+. It would normally take three+ rapid synths to get the lesser 5500s. So now its 8? So how do you get inner quiet to 11 stacks let alone quality to 100%? 5.0 I could get HQ with all NQ is I was incredibly lucky, adn even then I used 50% mats. Now I wouldn't even try to HQ without 100% HQ mats, and I'm not even sure I want to try and risk losing 1+ million in mats...

    Someone prove me wrong, list how you HQ with these changes?
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    Last edited by Thaeros; 10-30-2019 at 06:13 AM.

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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Both Hasty Touch and Rapid synth need the chance boosted to about 75% to make it reasonable.
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    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    I dunno, I did a bit of crafting earlier with Rapid Synthesis and Hasty Touch and didn't have any problems. It didn't feel like only 50% success rate, but maybe I was just lucky.

    Just Git Gud at crafting, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post

    Just Git Gud at crafting, I guess.
    I'm kinda reluctant to try these abilities out with a 50% success rate... I'm the kind of gal that can fail a 90% action 5 times in a row <_>;. I miss steady hand already :'(
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I'm kinda reluctant to try these abilities out with a 50% success rate... I'm the kind of gal that can fail a 90% action 5 times in a row <_>;. I miss steady hand already :'(
    I was worried too, but I didn't find myself failing any more than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I was worried too, but I didn't find myself failing any more than before.
    congratz, you have great luck, I stopped using rapid synthesis when I failed 5 times in a row.
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    Fefnir Eindraer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I dunno, I did a bit of crafting earlier with Rapid Synthesis and Hasty Touch and didn't have any problems. It didn't feel like only 50% success rate, but maybe I was just lucky.

    Just Git Gud at crafting, I guess.
    You obviously never suffered through the 2.0 crafting book fiasco, or are failing to be funny. Either way, noone that crafts any amount is going to think this is a good idea. Plus the new items have 44450 quality and 6700+ completion. And patient touch is also worthless at 50% as well.

    I failed at a 2 million weapon back in 3.0 I refuse to do that again.
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    Luna Sol
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    1.0 --> 2.0 changes killed crafting
    2.0 --> 3.0 changes killed crafting
    3.0 --> 4.0 changes killed crafting
    4.0 --> 5.0 changes killed crafting
    5.0 --> 5.1 changes killed crafting

    C'mon guys! How many times are we gonna kill crafting! We are beating a dead horse now!
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    1.0 --> 2.0 changes killed crafting
    2.0 --> 3.0 changes killed crafting
    3.0 --> 4.0 changes killed crafting
    4.0 --> 5.0 changes killed crafting
    5.0 --> 5.1 changes killed crafting

    C'mon guys! How many times are we gonna kill crafting! We are beating a dead horse now!
    We're confirmed to be killing crafting again in 5.2. So... More? More times.
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    Aces Fool
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    Looks to me like they want you to use HQ materials to make HQ gear. Instead of using a macro to make everything HQ. Thankfully I only level crafting to save gil on melding.
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