Thread: Not enjoying the 5.1 Ninja changes

What made ninja fun was it was the only class to really be about multi tasking and fast button pressing. You were always pushing something. Whether it be cueing up mundras while doing combos or what not. And i guess it could definitely use reform. But witg the new cooloffs its just a class of strict pattern following combo mundras combo mundras combo mundras combo mundras. Its awful such a long cool off no fast button pressing. Its too similar to other classes now but it doesn’t even do well like other classes. Like samurai is a slower button presser but it at least feels right for the class. Honestly Ninja was my favorite class to run main story with but now i hate it. Its kinda ruined the experience for me.

I’m okay with the changes lol NIN was unplayable for a big chunk of us cause of ping issues. TCJ isn’t so weirdly clunky anymore

Ninjutsu abilities hit like a truck now. It feels really good. I like all the changes overall, even if the job feels a little slower. The horrible clipping is gone. The clunkiness of TCJ is gone. Shadow Fang is weird now, but it's such a minor thing.

For those who hate the changes and want a more fast-paced job, I would recommend MCH.

Originally Posted by GrenGarm

Ninjutsu abilities hit like a truck now. It feels really good. I like all the changes overall, even if the job feels a little slower. The horrible clipping is gone. The clunkiness of TCJ is gone. Shadow Fang is weird now, but it's such a minor thing.

Agreed. It seems like the people who were able to play Ninja dislike the changes (mainly because of the mudra GCD change), but a good portion of people who couldn't really play the job before (because of mudras) are enjoying it.
Not sure how to feel. I sympathize with old NIN players, but I like what they've done. It feels different, but it doesn't feel bad...

From what ive read so far it seems causal/new Ninja players like the changes, while Ninja main that have played for a while dislike the changes. Interesting.

Originally Posted by Raginroxas

From what ive read so far it seems causal/new Ninja players like the changes, while Ninja main that have played for a while dislike the changes. Interesting.

I actually started playing the game on early august and hate the new Nin.

I imagine the changes are meant to entice new, casual and bad connection players to try nin.

But the developers aren't thinking that 5.0 Nin could also be used to attract a crowd of more hardcore gamers to the game. The low dps in the previous ninja also helped there be a balance of hardcore players not producing a ton of more dps than other easier jobs. To me it was worth it to have to work more to do damage since I just want a fast, fun play style more than anything.

Plus the popularity of Dark Souls should prove that although a lot of people complain about difficulty, others enjoy the challenge. (and yes, I love Dark Souls)

Originally Posted by Yani-Madara

I actually started playing the game on early august and hate the new Nin.

I imagine the changes are meant to entice new, casual and bad connection players to try nin.

But the developers aren't thinking that 5.0 Nin could also be used to attract a crowd of more hardcore gamers to the game. The low dps in the previous ninja also helped there be a balance of hardcore players not producing a ton of more dps than other easier jobs. To me it was worth it to have to work more to do damage since I just want a fast, fun play style more than anything.

Plus the popularity of Dark Souls should prove that although a lot of people complain about difficulty, others enjoy the challenge. (and yes, I love Dark Souls)

MMOs never develop baseline classes based on what hardcore players want to play. It's why a talent system is helpful, because it lets you trade more complexity for more output. Pretty much no MMOs currently do that correctly though.

Originally Posted by Raginroxas

From what ive read so far it seems causal/new Ninja players like the changes, while Ninja main that have played for a while dislike the changes. Interesting.

A running theme there...

Not a big fan of the changes, somehow they managed to keep the intro feeling just as crazy as before since now ninjutus take longer and you want to jam shadowfang into your TA. Except now the rest of the rotation feels just as wonky as the opener used to, as you spend ~40 seconds pooling and then try to jam everything into 15 seconds, it might be just the bad starts I've been getting since the changes but it feels like it's really hard to line things up to be able to fit enough into your TA windows now.