Thread: Summoner is doing too much in 5.10

Originally Posted by remiff

I did not say that square enix should not adjust a too strong job, I meant that they repeat the same error in the sense that there will always be too strong jobs in the game .

Again, you're stating the obvious, so what's your point? That a .01% difference is fundamentally the same as a 10% difference, and thus we shouldn't complain about imbalances of any degree? What?

Originally Posted by Darsien

Who cares? Square has said that class difficulty doesn't dictate output. Also both classes are straightforward and their rotation concepts are easy to perform. Don't kid yourself.

Unless you see that opinion coming from a combined panel of the raid design team and our trio of job designers, it's almost certainly just lip-service to best placate the most vocal portions of the playerbase. That's been the only consistency across their combat design statements. Virtually everything else has contradicted itself over time.

Well i guess it was fun while it lasted... At the his point SE will nerf SMN with all the people saying its too OP.

SMN is doing the amount of damage that its supposed to be doing for the amount of work that has to be put into it. So maybe just maybe people should actually for a change ask for the other 2 caster jobs to get adjustments and buffs.

its the overall average of Blm (not the 99s only)..., Blm is fell behind since 5.1 of all the top dps, even Drg..

with heavy movement it gets worse

its nothing like what Sam was in 5.0, ..Blm is still good, but for a zero utility its overall a bit behind

therefore, Smn seems overall fine (though as a class with rez, Smn is kind of strong..., almost too strong)..

still its leans more towords Blm not being fine (overall average dps) for not having utility

using a Smn in new fights or heavy movement fights is vastly easier than Blm, even if the Smn rotation is "more complex"..

once a fight is fully mastered (and not too heavy on the movement), Blm is still probably the better choice..

but Smn is with its rez and utility is a bit too strong (like Mnk were at 5.0) compared to Blm

even Drg are ahead of Blm in the average dps on Titan (Sam being top, Smn 2nd, Mkn 3rd, Drg 4th)

and on Hades, Smn is even top Dps on "average', Blm is somewhere on ca. 6th spot, even behind Mch

Dont know what data you are talking about titan savage 5.1 only data? A data that being taken since thrusday dont represent all BLM, BLM still top if you count 5.0 BLM, which is fair since they dont get any number change, the best of blm os probably done their weekly in tuesday where act still cant be used.

Hades with lots of moving and cutscene is not a good comparrison, SMN have their burst skill cooldown moving while BLM is losing enochian in that fight, which is unique (yoshida say it himself which is why we get 2 totem instead of 1)

E4S:
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statisti...s=68&bracket=2

Hades Ex:
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/28/#boss=1049