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  1. #1
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    TironStarstryker's Avatar
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    My wrists hurt, I haven't been able to *play* for two days, and no house for my FC.

    The current purchasing system is:
    1.) Physically Damaging to Player health
    2.) Insanely, ridiculously discourteous
    3.) Doesn't even do what it's supposed to do. People are still selling lots!
    4.) Increases server load for no reason.

    I have spent two entire days unable to play the game while trying to get *any plot whatsoever* for my FC. I've lost a total of three of them, two after more than 12 hours of attempting to buy it, and the third after a mere, oh, 3 or 4. All to Individuals. My wrists hurt like hell, my left elbow was cramping up for half the day, and I've got literally nothing to show for it but sheer rage.

    And it's an easy fricking fix, too!

    1.) The timer that allows individual purchases needs to be longer than the one for FCs. If no FC wants to buy it first, then let an individual have it, and only then.

    2.) There needs to be a *vague* indication of when the lot becomes available for purchase. This would mean people aren't sitting there for half a day, constantly sending requests to the server to see if the thing's available yet. Even if it only indicated within a freaking hour it would be a dramatic improvement.

    That's the worst of the problems. The only way I can think of to stop relocation lot selling (the most common kind now) is to have the timer apply to that as well.

    As for selling an entire FC that owns a house... that I don't know.

    And no, the new wards aren't a solution as the chances of being able to get in and buy a house when they go live is, based on past reports, almost nonexistent. not to mention the new housing is a drop in the bucket of what needs to be added.
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    You know video games are now recognized as an addiction right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    You know video games are now recognized as an addiction right?
    While true, the way the housing purchase system works you basically *have* to sit there and click for hours, probably multiple days in a row, to actually get one. It's... beyond dumb.

    Or use a macro and get banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TironStarstryker View Post
    And no, the new wards aren't a solution as the chances of being able to get in and buy a house when they go live is, based on past reports, almost nonexistent. not to mention the new housing is a drop in the bucket of what needs to be added.
    You will have no problem getting a FC once the new wards go live as long as your FC is at least rank 6 and has the gil ready to buy one. You evidently have been reading the exaggerated past reports instead of the accurate ones. Every world had large number of vacancies throughout the FC only purchase period when the new wards were added in 4.2. It was only after the personal purchase moratorium was lifted that they quickly disappeared on the very high population worlds. The low and medium population worlds had plots available for several weeks if not months after that.

    Your FC might not get it's preferred choice of a plot but it will be able to get one.

    Also the current system is not damaging to player health. It's your unhealthy obsession that is damaging your health. That is YOUR responsibility, not Square Enix's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You will have no problem getting a FC once the new wards go live as long as your FC is at least rank 6 and has the gil ready to buy one. You evidently have been reading the exaggerated past reports instead of the accurate ones. Every world had large number of vacancies throughout the FC only purchase period when the new wards were added in 4.2. It was only after the personal purchase moratorium was lifted that they quickly disappeared on the very high population worlds. The low and medium population worlds had plots available for several weeks if not months after that.

    Your FC might not get it's preferred choice of a plot but it will be able to get one.

    Also the current system is not damaging to player health. It's your unhealthy obsession that is damaging your health. That is YOUR responsibility, not Square Enix's.
    A system that requires constant inputs for a period of hours to have a reasonable chance of success... yeah, that's bad any way you slice it. There is literally *no* way to tell if the plot's actually available other than trying to buy it. If anyone else is there trying to buy it as well... Which there is, well. Unless you're phenomenally lucky, you don't get it. I've worked on three, and not gotten any of them. (I watched a *lot* of Star Trek the last couple days, heh.)

    The system *requires* you either basically give up on getting one or... sit there and spam it. Because other people are spamming it, and if you don't you've got effectively zero chance of success yourself. And only a small one even if you *do* spam it. It's a flawed system, and blaming it on the people trying to use that is fallacious at best. The system actively encourages that behavior by effectively locking you out if you don't do that.

    More plots is a band-aid, unless they add enough to mostly satisfy demand. Which isn't likely to happen unless they increase the cost of ownership so much that it drives down demand, from what I can see.
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    And all you have to do is wait about another month so you can avoid all the constant clicking because the new wards will open and there will be plenty for your FC to choose from.

    I understand there are issues with the current system but trying to blame SE for stress you have imposed on yourself over something in a game is ridiculous. Nothing is worth risking your health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TironStarstryker View Post
    While true, the way the housing purchase system works you basically *have* to sit there and click for hours, probably multiple days in a row, to actually get one. It's... beyond dumb.

    Or use a macro and get banned.
    You ignore the most obvious way to obtain an FC house... purchase one off someone.

    Players purposely chose to ignore the easiest and safest option. Hard to have sympathy for someone when they decided to pick the worst option available to them.
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    Last edited by Big_Bap; 10-06-2019 at 11:57 PM.

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    There is an easy fix for this.

    1. The character needs to finished with the MSQ Line before they can purchase a house.
    2. Allow only 1 Free Company house per account
    3. Allow only 1 Personal house per account - 1 character - 1 house - no matter the size. The account shares the personal house purchased.
    4. Open up 18 More wards in each housing are - basically doubling what is available now.
    5. Pack Up needs to be 90 days from the day the sub runs out - refunding 100% of purchase value
    6. Remove all timers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoofyBoots View Post
    There is an easy fix for this.

    1. The character needs to finished with the MSQ Line before they can purchase a house.
    2. Allow only 1 Free Company house per account
    3. Allow only 1 Personal house per account - 1 character - 1 house - no matter the size. The account shares the personal house purchased.
    4. Open up 18 More wards in each housing are - basically doubling what is available now.
    5. Pack Up needs to be 90 days from the day the sub runs out - refunding 100% of purchase value
    6. Remove all timers.
    Only the first point made any sense.
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    https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...e225f833b8c3e6

    "After the release of Patch 5.1, wards 19 through 21 will be added to all residential districts. Subdivisions will also be available, resulting in a total of 180 new plots of land for each of the four districts. An apartment building will also be added to each ward, with a second apartment building available in each subdivision.

    Please note, however, that sales of plots in wards 19 through 21 will be restricted to Free Companies for a limited time.
    "

    There you go OP. SE are already doing what you suggest, and have been for some time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TironStarstryker View Post
    chances of being able to get in and buy a house when they go live is, based on past reports, almost nonexistent.
    This is factually untrue, and I'm pretty sure you are mixing up times when they opened up FC housing and individual housing at the same time. I have seen screenshots of empty lots just days before they open it to individuals, with people complaining (ironically) that they have no neighbors. The demand for FC housing just isn't that high.


    P.S: Quit crying about physical injuries that you inflicted upon yourself. Its a videogame, get up and take a break. I get that its frustrating having housing be so limiting, but to blame it for physical injury distracts from the real issues and highlights your own issues.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 10-07-2019 at 04:17 AM.

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