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    I have said this before back in 5.0 discussion but I will say it again...

    I am assuming the WoL that will be going against us are certainly from the other shards but their reasons are based on certain beliefs we have seen in other series that involve Light and Darkness. There are many different type of beliefs about Light and Darkness depending on the series but the most generic is that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil.

    It is common in fantasy stories to always have the Light represent Good and the only thing that can repel the Evil that threaten the world or worlds while Evil always use Darkness and Darkness being the manifestation of corruption and sin.

    I have a feeling who ever these Warriors of Light are, they may be follow this generic belief about Light and Darkness thus believe WoL/WoD is Evil because he or she represents the Darkness of the First which in their belief is Evil.

    It may lead to a interesting story for 5.2 to 5.55 about how Light and Darkness are neither Good nor Evil but it greatly depends on how they are used and teaching this lesson to these Warriors of Light who have grown up in a world where people grow up believing always that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil.

    As for appearance reveal here in 5.1....


    I am assuming this first Warrior of Light looks like Arbert because he is a fragment of the Original Soul for our character and the choice for him to always look like Arbert maybe to due being related to the Original Soul in some way. Perhaps a strong memory of a person who once look like that.

    For developer point wise, it is most likely because by deafult WoL is intened to always look like Arbert and with them being fragments of the same Soul it is easier to just give them the same default appearance as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
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    I'm kind of doubting we're dealing with an actual WoL here mostly because it would mean they decided to trust Elidibus...which wouldn't really make any sense when the Ascians have a long established reputation of sowing chaos throughout all the shards.

    The only reason the First's WoLs cooperated was because their world was on the verge of complete annihilation and there's nothing to suggest the other shards are facing a similar predicament.

    That and it still seems a bit unusual that Ardbert's body was conveniently missing. Yes, some people have pointed out that this is a younger-looking Ardbert, but we already know Ascians can shape the bodies they overtake for whatever reasons they see fit and I find the notion of all of our WoL's soul fragments looking identical when we don't a bit silly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm kind of doubting we're dealing with an actual WoL here mostly because it would mean they decided to trust Elidibus...which wouldn't really make any sense when the Ascians have a long established reputation of sowing chaos throughout all the shards.

    The only reason the First's WoLs cooperated was because their world was on the verge of complete annihilation and there's nothing to suggest the other shards are facing a similar predicament.

    That and it still seems a bit unusual that Ardbert's body was conveniently missing. Yes, some people have pointed out that this is a younger-looking Ardbert, but we already know Ascians can shape the bodies they overtake for whatever reasons they see fit and I find the notion of all of our WoL's soul fragments looking identical when we don't a bit silly.


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    this will not be the first time Warriors of Light are created by the Ascians. As revealed back in 5.0 through the Final Job Role Quest, Arbert and his companions are made into Warriors of Light because of Ascians manipulating events to make certain they become Warriors of Light as part of their plan to cause the First to return to the Source. It would have worked as well if Arbert had not refused to finished his final task that would have made him into a Warrior of Light by killing the Shadowkeeper.

    So it is possible for Ascians to trick Hydealyn into making Warriors of Light but it is also possible that becoming Warriors of Light may not be involved with Hydealyn as well considering what is revealed in the Job Role Quests involve Arbert and his companion's journey to become Warriors of Light as the result of Ascians manipulating events to make them into becoming Warriors of Light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    this will not be the first time Warriors of Light are created by the Ascians. As revealed back in 5.0 through the Final Job Role Quest, Arbert and his companions are made into Warriors of Light because of Ascians manipulating events to make certain they become Warriors of Light as part of their plan to cause the First to return to the Source.
    And don't forget: the meaning of light and darkness in the first is the opposite of their meaning in the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm kind of doubting we're dealing with an actual WoL here mostly because it would mean they decided to trust Elidibus...which wouldn't really make any sense when the Ascians have a long established reputation of sowing chaos throughout all the shards.

    The only reason the First's WoLs cooperated was because their world was on the verge of complete annihilation and there's nothing to suggest the other shards are facing a similar predicament.

    That and it still seems a bit unusual that Ardbert's body was conveniently missing. Yes, some people have pointed out that this is a younger-looking Ardbert, but we already know Ascians can shape the bodies they overtake for whatever reasons they see fit and I find the notion of all of our WoL's soul fragments looking identical when we don't a bit silly.


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    You're forgetting he has a a few of them already from the 13th shard that he saved

    Cylvia already mentioned that there were more than just her and the kid in the rising stones. I think he may have mentioned it as well. It's why I'm thinking that Albert over there is our shard from the 13th
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    You're forgetting he has a a few of them already from the 13th shard that he saved

    Cylvia already mentioned that there were more than just her and the kid in the rising stones. I think he may have mentioned it as well. It's why I'm thinking that Albert over there is our shard from the 13th
    Adding on a bit from here.

    based on what we learned in that quest we also know one body from the First WoL group was not used: Arbert's. Pretty much the easiest proof for this being Ascian possession shenanigans instead of being a WoL from one of the other worlds.

    Personally I feel, outside of one other character we already know, we won't be seeing anymore WoL fragments until atleast some point within the next expansion's patch story. Presuming that next xpac doesn't end the ongoing Zodiark/Hydaelyn conflict and even then I just don't seem other fragments being factored in for a bit longer.


    For Automata

    I have a few theories on the origins of the XIV machines and androids are, some more supported than others as well as some making DrakeNier canon to XIV (unlikely as that is). But the one plot point I know for sure will be true is that the Machine Lifeforms are still going to have been created by beings not of Hydaelyn, and that they also most likely have found out about Omega in some way if not having been created by the same people.

    I also don't think the Logic Virus has come into play yet for either 2P or 9S, presuming that DrakenNier and XIV are not canon to each other. The room full of 2Bs is the big thing keeping me from really forming theories simply because...well, we don't have any context for that room using only what we know from XIV. Next raid tier is gonna be a fun ride. Also holding out for best boi Emil!


    Pixies

    Completed the 5th rank up today, yeah our nightmare fairy is some sort of reincarnation of the previous Titania. The question is whether or not she'll be able to stick around by the end of the questline more than anything. Also whether the Tempest will be used in a future rank up quest.
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