Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.1

Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

It's just a small bit of set up

I squeed seeing who they seem to put in charge based on those images very happy about it

Originally Posted by Remedi

about the final stinger

that's elidubus right? I mean it would fit

I'd assume not, given Zenos didn't recognize him despite having encountered Elidibus prior to regaining his body. Arguably he is hooded, but Zenos seemed to look directly at his soul, so I'd assume we can disregard such a trivial disguise.

My money, as always is on Lahabrea.

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Unless you mean the Wayward Warrior stinger, then maybe Elidibus body hoped but I'm doubtful of that. For one because Ardberts body shouldn't be in particularly good condition, and for another that would put Elidibus on the frontlines, which I assume he'd want to avoid right now. More likely that's the another Shards version of us/Ardbert that Elidibus brought over.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'm thinking...

Zenos seemed to recognize the person in white, and was somewhat shocked to see them. Meaning it's possibly somebody he knew, but it's doubtful it's one of our copies because he would have drawn his weapon immediately. My money is on either the good doctor we fought in Ala Mhigo or Asahi, since either would make for an interesting twist as somebody he knew and would likely be willing to work with.

The "hue" remark I took to be Zenos recognizing the type of soul (say... an Ascian soul...), but not the individual. Whoever it is seems to have some idea of Zodiark and would like to help Zenos hunt Zodiark. That rules out a lot IMO, though arguably if Elidibus is pulling the strings he'd likely give such a puppet the right words to buy favour with Zenos. For someone to know "full well [Zodiark]" I can only really say Ascian, though. Arguably only one of the big three, but that only leaves Elidibus, who we can rule out I think... Emet we saw turn to dust... So that leaves...

Lahabrea. My theory always was that Lahabrea didn't want to revive Zodiark, he wanted to become Zodiark. The whole Shiva/Thordan Primal experiment was to that end, perhaps even the whole Terminus event leading up to the summoning of Zodiark. Zenos has already displayed the ability to take over a summoned Primal (Shinryu), now he sets his sights on Zodiark... Time for Lahabrea to come out from whatever rock he is hiding under, assuming we buy my "He survived being sucked into Thordans personal sword-battery" line of fanciful theorycrafting. His aether wasn't consumed, it was stored, and that gave him the opportunity to eventually break free and hide away to work on his own goals. Now he helps Zenos track his prey, then snatches it up from right under his nose...

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

As for the other...

I'm betting money that it's Elidibus. As unlikely as it would be for him to find Ardbert's body, he needs to keep us stuck on the First for a while. This would require him manipulating things to keep our attention focused there, and finding out he was there would definitely be a big one to keep us from going back to the Source too soon. Not to mention this would be their best chance to flesh him out and explain why he's so obsessed with equilibrium, considering everything he has done up to this point has been for that singular motive...even fighting us back in 4.5 when a Calamity of Light was about to occur (something the other Ascians wanted) when killing us would have thrown the balance into the favor of Darkness and probably prevented it.

Would he be doing this directly, though? He wants to keep us busy on the First presumably so he has more of a free reign to manipulate events on the Source. If he is personally keeping us busy, that's a problem. I guess if we take the guy on the Source to be his puppet, that frees him up on the First... Still, that seems unbelievably risky... We're all meant to be under the impression that he is the last of the unsundered, the only Ascian left who can help raise up his brethren... If we toss some Auracite (which conveniently came up this patch) his way then it's game over for their entire ambition. He should be far more cautious... That's the whole reason he "Nope!"'d out of an encounter with Zenos, after all... We don't have G'raha trying to summon us to give him an edge next time we encounter him and I don't think Ardbert is a stronger body than Zenos...

Either way though, I do find it a bit disappointing to be reusing Ardbert in this manner... He had a nice send off, to bring his corpse back or to just have another Shards "us" also look the same as Ardbert... Eh, I guess I prefer the former in that case... There's more drama if it is Ardberts corpse... I would hope it isn't Elidibus though, that just seems too reckless, plenty of other Ascians he could send to do the grunt work... Sets a fairly haunting prospect, too... Hope he doesn't send any other fallen heroes our way...

I have said this before back in 5.0 discussion but I will say it again...

I am assuming the WoL that will be going against us are certainly from the other shards but their reasons are based on certain beliefs we have seen in other series that involve Light and Darkness. There are many different type of beliefs about Light and Darkness depending on the series but the most generic is that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil.

It is common in fantasy stories to always have the Light represent Good and the only thing that can repel the Evil that threaten the world or worlds while Evil always use Darkness and Darkness being the manifestation of corruption and sin.

I have a feeling who ever these Warriors of Light are, they may be follow this generic belief about Light and Darkness thus believe WoL/WoD is Evil because he or she represents the Darkness of the First which in their belief is Evil.

It may lead to a interesting story for 5.2 to 5.55 about how Light and Darkness are neither Good nor Evil but it greatly depends on how they are used and teaching this lesson to these Warriors of Light who have grown up in a world where people grow up believing always that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil.

As for appearance reveal here in 5.1....

I am assuming this first Warrior of Light looks like Arbert because he is a fragment of the Original Soul for our character and the choice for him to always look like Arbert maybe to due being related to the Original Soul in some way. Perhaps a strong memory of a person who once look like that.

For developer point wise, it is most likely because by deafult WoL is intened to always look like Arbert and with them being fragments of the same Soul it is easier to just give them the same default appearance as well.