Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.1

So we got our glimps at the first Warrior of Light who is going to hunt WoL/WoD and the Scions

With his appearance being Arbert's appearance

I can only assume he is also a fragment of our character because it seems as if all fragments of the Original Soul has that appearance except for our own character for unknown reasons.

I am still curious what his reason for fight Wol/WoD is though.

He speaks about bringing Hope back to the world but I have this feeling his reason for doing this maybe blind belief he is Good and WoL/WoD is Evil simply because WoL/WoD follows the Darkness or is being blamed for some kind of incident.

MSQ

Kind of underwhelming, though I expected that going in. Most of what needs to happen in the immediate future is dealing with the fallout from Shadowbringers, and most if not all of what we did was directly or indirectly related to that. Half was messing with souls in an effort to figure out how to ferry the Archons back home, the other half dealing with Eulmore's governmental issues in the wake of Vauthry's power vacuum.

The stuff on the Source was interesting in setting up future events, but now that the calamity from the First has been forestalled and there are no other preeminent crises demanding our attention MSQ stuff there is just denouement... though there are applications for some of it elsewhere.

YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse

Well, nothing at all was explained. At all. I expected this as well due to a recent interview from... somewhere... saying we wouldn't really get much information on what the deal is until the 5.3 (or even 5.5!) raid, so I didn't expect to get a whole lot of info.

I liked how the fights were easier than the Return to Ivalice fights though. Still had to pay attention to avoid dying, but not so bad that a few people not being perfectly on-point will wipe the raid. You can learn as you go with the fight, instead of needing a tutorial video or pre-battle explanation. I like those kinds of fights.

The gear looks nice, but I didn't see a single tank piece drop. I guess I can run it again till I get one... I did get the 2B cosplay set, but nothing else.

I'll be disappointed if 2P bites it so early. It feels like a waste to introduce her and kill her off so early into the quest, but I wouldn't put it past Yoko Taro...

I'll start on the pixie Beast Tribe quests tomorrow, eh...

MSQ

A nice addendum to Eulmore and good to know that the sin eater victims can possibly be saved. I am glad about having the pseudo-confirmation that Ardbert rejoined with us as well (am sort of confused why they weren't able to say the same thing about G'raha when he comes from a time after an 8th rejoining but eh).
It was nice to play out the events after the ShB cliffhanger, though who the new white-robed figure actually is and how they plan to get Zenos into contact with Zodiark is anyone's guess. The Ardbert look-a-like is probs one of the 'warriors of light' Elidibus was talking about... but I feel like they are just gonna be "lesser Ardbert" if they don't throw some curveballs.

Alliance Raid

I dont have much to say on the story so far, and will keep on musing until more concrete information becomes available in 5.3/5.5. However, I WILL say that the "collection" feature and (more specifically) the ability to revisit a version of the instanced raid area after the duty has been completed to gather more lore is something I actually love and have previously wanted for other instanced duty areas like dungeons and raids. I realise the dev team probably can't do that for every piece of group content, but it is gratifying to see at least ONE thing having such a feature, and hope they continue it with the rest of the raid series.

Pixies

So the pixies can make/influence dreams.... that's a somewhat chilling thought. An Lad really gives of the vibe of being reincarnated Lightwarden Titania, especially since they seem to react negatively to us. Maybe after being doused in light for so long, after being freed, they just thought it was too dark. Nonserious speculation, but we'll we see how it plays out over the next few weeks.

Well did the MSQ and my thoughts on it:

I did not like it as much as I did the 5.0 story. But lets go at it from the start to the end.

I am a bit sad that Ryne and Thancred are missing from the plot..especially Ryne who might never really be seen again after shadowbringer, so having her in more story would be great. Also since they will be with the raid which is going to be there until the end of Shadowbringers, we can at least say that either the problem to transport their souls will be stretched over all the patches or they somehow decline to go back which is bad for Thancred and Urianger since they are the ones that are there the longest. Also its kinda a confirmation that Thancred might not be able to stay there either.

I liked the dialogue between the exarch and Alisaie. Thanks for showing him that this could really hurt us even though he meant well. Hopefully he will stay alive.

I did not like Alisaie and her behavior at the boat. We get it SE, she admires the WoL...but why does she need to nearly always react that way when someone else admires us too? The jealous type is already there with Feo Ul we dont need Alisaie to turn into that too. You say that you can interpret it as her loving us or just admiring us but the way she acts really makes it hard to not see it just as love, which makes me a bit uncomfortable since she is still underage..please tone it down a bit with her. There was simply no need to act towards the exarch that way. (But I also dont understand why our character looked so surprised at this..shouldnt they already know by now that Graha wanted to go on adventures with us?

Anyway...I noticed that in this patch there is in general (at least in German) either an option to be 100% positive or be negative and rude..sad that there is less of a middle way in the dialogue options most of the time.

The dungeon was great. Interesting boss mechanics, great music and I loved the look of it. I guess that the knights and the king are kinda the Thordan and knights version of the First? Some of them looked quite a bit like them. Here I loved the interaction between Alisaie and Alphinaud..her teasing him about the ghost. More of that and less of her admiration...

The Nuo Mo was cute as ever even though I wished that we would have gotten more information on the souls..still nice to see that there might be ways to undo the tempering and good to see that Alisaie could help those people in Amh Areng. (But man did they give Haldric a way too deep voice for a kid..and he still quite creepy...)

Sadly now the part of the patches comes that I liked less..I know its necessary to give Eulmore a closure but I really wished we got more information about souls and that stuff instead of most of the patch being there and helping there. Not much to say there, I am still just a bit surprised how easy it is for these people to move on. Great in a way but also imo a bit unbelieveable. Also everyone of the rich people still wearing their rich stuff and still living in the rich part of the town while the rest still has to live in the harser parts...would have been nice to see a bit of a change there and I do wonder how they will solve that problem.

And then we are kinda already over with the patch, somehow the fist solution would not be the best (I wonder if an Ascian would lose their memories too if they are too long in the crystal?) and we go back and finally have the talk with Estinien.

I liked that sequence even though I have to say that I still dislike the look of Garlemald itself..so bleak..its interesting to see that our predicitions were wrong and Zenos simply does not take over the throne and anyone will probably believe that it was Gaius and Estinien that killed the king.

Still I am not quite happy that Zenos somehow even got some Ascian power..I mean if all it takes to get that is to get out of the body and back again in it....I just dont like how he really seems more and more to be the big bad that somehow now got cool abilities and that has now someone with him that wants to focus on taking down Zodiark...ugh please dont let this really end with him "eating" Zodiark...

Anyway Garlemald is now into civil war which will give Eorzea and the rest of the world a time to breath and maybe even serves as the fire for others to rebell against it once more.

The fight as Estinien was cool but also very creepy...if I remember it correctly that man in the machine had the garlean eye..they again used their own people for experiments..

And then the last scene...I am 100% that this is only Ardberts body with someone else in it. We got the confirmation that our soul shines brighter which means that we have Ardbert with us. But I remain skeptical on how great that fake guy will be...the first glimps of the WoD brought hype too yet their parts in the HW story was so small and disappointing for me that I kinda stay skeptical on how his role will be...

Anyway some positives from this but sadly it does not reach the same line as the 5.0 did for me.