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  1. #91
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    Lstkaws's Avatar
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    Tonup Coheed
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HokSeven View Post
    This. I always wander why SE does not learn from their mistakes. Really? you can't force people to bring other jobs into the mix? I don't like the word "force", but it's better than having 5 ARC or 5 BLMs everytime. Yes, there are people who try things out and do well on those. But mostly they are LS friends. Go to a pick up party and tell them I'll do ifrit as PGL. Wait for the laughs or no response....

    So, again to my question. SE wants to "force" people to drag melee into fight? Two ways... Go the easy route of enemy building resistance to magic or range. Meaning the more mages or range the worse. This also means the more melee the worse.

    The other idea, make them situational. How does that works, with say ifrit? easy, make the spikes un-damageble by magic or range.... EASY. Then everyone will have to drag at least one melee. Moogle? Same, make some moogles immune to magic or range... is it really that hard to implement and make fights more fun? I'm sure they can think of more ways, I did while writing this....

    SE is terrible about this. I wanted to get into a Ifrit PUG as MNK and the reply was "sorry", but at least I got a reply...normally I don't even get that. I did thank the individual for at least being kind enough to give me a reply. They need to come up with better mechanics for some of these fights. That being said the community has to take some of the blame. Once a strategy is found it's pretty much locked in stone unless you have an LS that is willing to try some different strats.
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  2. #92
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    charlemagne's Avatar
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    Charlemagne Ifrit
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I can't really comment on drg as I haven't played it that much even though I was LNC in probably 70% of situations previously. The reason isn't that I think it's weaker as I don't know this to be true but the reason does answer your question.
    The reason I take monk over warrior ( or drg for now) is that monk is just so much damn fun to play.
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  3. #93
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    Dokuton Taijutsu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    -Within a 10 sec Window WAR gets off 1 WS or a 3 WS Combo ( Slow AA, Slow TP Gain etc)

    -Within a 10 sec Window DRG get 2-3 WS or a 3 WS X 3 (max)= 9 WS (Fast AA, Fast TP Gain + Invigorate)

    It's only NATURAL for a WAR to hit harder in 1 go because of WAR's Being all slow to Weaponskill. From 1 Solid Hit View of things Yes your right they hit Hard.. but when you do it over a Course of a Full battle, Which one comes out on top ( or is it even?).

    Why would it matter what WAR does? As long as you love your Job all else doesn't matter But you and Your Job!
    Can you just stop posting? It matters to other people.
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  4. #94
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    Luna Sushima
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Dokuton-Razortaru View Post
    Can you just stop posting? It matters to other people.
    Its more like people crying to me, but whatever carry on with the Tears of Woe.
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  5. #95
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    Mushy Tailspin
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I use a monk because the guy i typically play with is a monk, so we make do, and im the blm/whm for situations
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    MAGIC MUSHY ROOMS

  6. #96
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    My opinion, the best way to speed run in Aurum Vale is having all DPS be Monks and take down the last boss extremely fast.

    Right now, because of Cutter's Cry's setup, it is convenient to have Warrior/Black Mage over other DPS until Chimera due to getting mobs into one spot and AoE'ing them all at once. I will say on the Princess fight, we always have at least one DRG in our party, who is always ready to take the Guard down quickly, and almost always succeeds in that. DRG does real well on Princess because they can still dish out nasty damage on the Princess while being able to sustain TP to take down the Guard immediately when the Guard pops. The problem with Warrior (assuming you are not tanking the Marshal or Princess) is that there is always a chance that your WS's are not ready for use. Warriors gain TP a lot slower.

    For Chimera himself. Technically the best way to take him down is having melees in your party, Monk especially. If you are able to Dragon Kick that tail off, Chimera really is a pushover for melees, since they can dish out more damage on him than Black Mages. On Chimera between Warrior(DPS) and MNK/DRG, MNK/DRG have a big advantage over them.

    So basically, Monk and Dragoon have better single target DPS than Warrior. Dungeons just really call for more AoE damage.
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  7. #97
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    Saga Gemini
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I really enjoy playing dragoon over warrior.
    Yea, it can be used as a tank, but i'd rather dps as DRG.
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  8. #98
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    Vinta Calvert
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    This thread is further evidence to my theory that all people who play Warrior as their main job have a massive ego.

    "Don't worry, I can tank this."
    "Don't worry, I'll do the most damage."
    "Don't worry, I'll keep it stunned."
    "Don't worry, heal the others first."
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  9. #99
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    Dawn Nova'nuru
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    If people are paying money to play this game, I don't think they are gonna care about whats best at tanking or whatever, they're gonna play as what they want to play as. There are different jobs for a reason, and there's no one way to play the game, that's what makes it fun, you're treating this game like it's a real job or something -.-
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    Your thread title is wrong... It should read

    "Why use a Paladin when you can use a Warrior?"
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