Thread: Monk Adjustment Feedback 5.1

Originally Posted by Kahnom

Do you understand what clipping means ? It mean as soon as I've got stacks from Anatman and try spamming other skills the server won't allow other skills to activate until almost 1 sec later while PB openner barely clip at all(still clipping around 0.x sec but Anatman is cleary longer)
Yes, Anatman is DpS gain IF you're not clipping it and be able to double weave Ogcd but sorry I can't do that.
I think I've explained enough, I'm the one suffer dps loss by default here.
Don't think every Monk can play smooth and double weave whenever they want.

Even if you clip your GCD with Anatman currently, it's still a gain over PB. Once again Leaden Fist is too powerful to not use PB to spam it. It's way too much damage to give up. An approximate 1.5 second clip on your 2nd GCD is worth the massive burst you gain by using PB to spam DK > Bootshine. It's not even a double-weave thing because you've never double-weaved Anatman because it's too fickle.

With new anatman since it's on the GCD you only risk clipping your GCD by around .6 seconds as well. Still a massive gain over trying to use PB for GL gain and then only getting 1 Leaden Fist under buffs instead of 3-4.

Originally Posted by Makimaki_sargatanas

TK - turn this ability into an attack without consuming GL and back jump effect for mobility.
100 potency.

SSS - turn this into an ability and only 20% chance executable whenever there is a crit in demonish dot damage. 300 potency and 1 sec cooldown. Making this rare signature move.

Anantment - turn this into a buff ability and only stop GL timer for 10sec. So I can PB for laden fists.

Form shift - need to add 5 sec to the GL timer every time we hit the button. Kind of sucky to hit it 3 times prior teleporting.

Honestly, I wouldn't want TK to be a gutted potency skill just to gain a backstep which, imo, we don't even need. I would rather they keep the potency as is and just find a way to make it more usable/unique. They could make it function like Foul/Xenoglossy for the easiest rework, or they could just make it an oGCD that's up every 30 seconds - 60 seconds and give it some sort of additional effect (increased crit rate for 10 seconds? Guarantees your next 3 GCDs will open a chakra?).

SSS - Personally I don't want more RNG skills that come out of getting crits. We already have a resource devoted to it, I don't want a high potency move devoted to it as well. Also, I do not want it to become MNK Pitch Perfect. They can honestly leave it as it is. It's a nice skill for mitgating damage loss during short disconnects as well as good burst into a long disconnect. If they were to rework it I'd rather they just give it a CD and change the additional effect to opening a chakra or empowering one of our core GCDs or something. New idea: Maybe make it combo off of Tornado Kick. So if TK was a 30-60 second CD, it gives you a buff which allows you to use SSS (kinda like Sword Oath or Assassinate Ready) and just make SSS the higher potency of the two and also have it give 1 or 2 chakra stacks or something (that may be a bit much so the first bit would be fine) but I kinda like it cause it links the two capstone skills together and gives them both more uses throughout a fight.

Anatman - Literally just make it give a stack of GL, maybe give it 2 charges, on like a 60 second CD (if charges, 30 seconds per charge maybe). This would also refresh GL timer if at max stacks, so you could do 6 opo-opo PB all the time.

Form Shift - No change needed honestly. Having our forms last 15 seconds plus the refresh from using Form Shift from Coeurl to opo-opo already makes it impossible to drop GL, if they added an extension every time it was pressed it would just be like putting training wheels on a bike and then also making that bike run like a trolley where it's just pulled along by a string. I don't want a baby-mode easy job, I just want a job that's cohesive in its kit and identity.

Aside from those, the only other things I really want out of MNK is for all of its core 6 GCDs to have additional effects that make it feel like it actually combos from one attack to the next and its stances to be more involved (or just removed). So DK, Twin, Demo, and Bootshine are good as is. They could do something where like True generates a Chakra or makes your next GCD deal 50 more potency or something. Snap could maybe do something where it lowers the CD of Shoulder Tackle by 5 seconds or just something that makes it seem like all of MNK's kit is tied together and works in harmony, like a martial arts job should.

As for stances, my only idea is to make GL4 a normal trait like the previous GL traits then remove FoE and balance FoF and FoW to where FoF would be what you use in buff windows to do more burst and FoW outside of those windows to deal more sustained DPS. Maybe make FoF still a 10% damage buff but make FoW like a 5% haste buff or something. If that makes it too clunky or complicated then just remove the fist stances because they're kinda pointless otherwise.