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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Basically, they increased the price of the basic sub this expansion by $2 for anyone who crafts at all. I can't even imagine digging into ShB crafting with just 2 retainers.
    it's called inventory management, you don't need more than 2 retainers but sometimes you have to go gather things which you don't have any space for like I am doing now for new submarine parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's called inventory management, you don't need more than 2 retainers but sometimes you have to go gather things which you don't have any space for like I am doing now for new submarine parts.
    I forgot that retainers were only good for inventory space. Not like they are needed for posting on the market board and....oh wait...But I guess there has to someone to defend why players dont get a 3rd retainer 3 expansions into this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitingGenbu View Post
    I forgot that retainers were only good for inventory space. Not like they are needed for posting on the market board and....oh wait...But I guess there has to someone to defend why players dont get a 3rd retainer 3 expansions into this game.
    To be fair, since ARR more and more gear has been able to be put into the Armoire, we've had the glamour chest added and recently expanded, the chocobo saddlebag added and the currency tab created. Coupled with 2 retainers with 175 slots each and our inventory/armoury chest, the normal player has over 1000 inventory slots which is enough really. Inventory space has been addressed a number of times but of course they're not going to straight up give each player a third retainer. Perhaps they could expand it by giving us another page so that the item cap is 200, 175 is a bit of an obscure number

    I'd like to see primal totems and raid drops added to the currency tab personally
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    To be fair, since ARR more and more gear has been able to be put into the Armoire, we've had the glamour chest added and recently expanded, the chocobo saddlebag added and the currency tab created. Coupled with 2 retainers with 175 slots each and our inventory/armoury chest, the normal player has over 1000 inventory slots which is enough really. Inventory space has been addressed a number of times but of course they're not going to straight up give each player a third retainer. Perhaps they could expand it by giving us another page so that the item cap is 200, 175 is a bit of an obscure number

    I'd like to see primal totems and raid drops added to the currency tab personally
    Sure, if retainers were just for space, its whatever; however, they are more than that. Regardless of how someone utilizes them, the fact remains they are the only means of achieving more market board slots as well as procuring certain materials (might've changed, since some can come from fc exploration as well) and minions. Lulgilmaking/lulminions aside, needing to pay money for such a thing is a bit disrespectful given the age this game has on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's called inventory management, you don't need more than 2 retainers but sometimes you have to go gather things which you don't have any space for like I am doing now for new submarine parts.
    I'm still using only one retainer for extra storage, I've recently had to expand into it's 3rd block though. I only keep HQ mats there however, and sell all the NQ leftovers I gathered for a crafting session. Still trying to figure out how to move stuff to the second retainer when the first gets full. Will I have to move it into my bags first, then open the other retainer and move it all back?

    I do keep NQ skins and other beast drops though, since getting HQ versions of those in any usable quantity is next to impossible,
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    Last edited by SamSmoot; 10-28-2019 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's called inventory management, you don't need more than 2 retainers but sometimes you have to go gather things which you don't have any space for like I am doing now for new submarine parts.
    Baffled that people will defend 2 retainers max after 3 expansions.

    You as a crafter are perfectly fine having to go out and gather every time you need to make anything, then throw out the excess mats you gathered after, then go gather more when you need the same again, constantly pruning and not allowed to hold too many totems or raid currencies or "might be handy" items, while a "premium sub" user can basically store any useful mat they like in the game, keeping their army of retainers on constant ventures to stockpile stacks of each. They want to try the "I made that VI" achievement, make a glamour, gear an alt class, make a sub, make a friend or FC member an item, they can do it within the minute by simply grabbing the mats.

    Up to SB you could enjoy this too, but now its become a premium sub privilage only you're defending it as great and happily off gathering things you threw out last week, waiting for timed nodes again and cursing at the mb for only selling stacks of 99 at high price.

    We should have got a 3rd free retainer by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Baffled that people will defend 2 retainers max after 3 expansions.
    Just stating that it's extremely possible to craft with proper inventory management doesn't mean that you're defending not getting extra inventory.

    I also only use 2 retainers. I'd love more, but saying more required for crafting is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    it's called inventory management, you don't need more than 2 retainers but sometimes you have to go gather things which you don't have any space for like I am doing now for new submarine parts.

    I don't mind going and getting something that is old and that I am not holding. But timers for nodes below the current expansion is garbage. Strangely when you mention that in other threads they all say just "venture it". Isn't the whole point to have less retainers.


    Also defending SE about inventory is a little questionable. Considering the limits of real world resources. They can't give us all a million inventory slots. Yet they not only add new mats every expansion also a lot of patches. Plus they make the new mats require mats from other expansions. Peoples arguments would sound a lot better if everyone knew when 5.0 hit the 4.X stuff could go to the vendor and so on and so on.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 10-29-2019 at 07:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I don't mind going and getting something that is old and that I am not holding. But timers for nodes below the current expansion is garbage. Strangely when you mention that in other threads they all say just "venture it". Isn't the whole point to have less retainers.


    Also defending SE about inventory is a little questionable. Considering the limits of real world resources. They can't give us all a million inventory slots. Yet they not only add new mats every expansion also a lot of patches. Plus they make the new mats require mats from other expansions. Peoples arguments would sound a lot better if everyone knew when 5.0 hit the 4.X stuff could go to the vendor and so on and so on.
    how am I defending square, I just said you don't need more than 2 retainers to be a crafter, you just need to know what each item is used for and if they are worth keeping and when they increased the item carry to 999 for one slot, they greatly increased the inventory because you used to need multiple slots for all items which are used often.
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