Speed Run + Timer

[Peptaru]

OP was saying that speed runs are stupid, and while you CAN do them with diversity it favors job stacking. You can do them all NP with whatever jobs,true, but it doesn't make it the most effective method. I agree with OP, btw. Speed runs for best loot is not a challenge, speed runs ARE.NOT.HARD. Its a stupid, random hoop to jump through to create a wonderful time-sink to bide time til content. I'm glad you can do it with all the jobs, but having a few minutes left over compared to job stacking and having 10-12+ minutes left over... kinda supports the OP's idea in the OP. lol

[Chardrizard]

OP was saying that speed runs are stupid, and while you CAN do them with diversity it favors job stacking. You can do them all NP with whatever jobs,true, but it doesn't make it the most effective method. I agree with OP, btw. Speed runs for best loot is not a challenge, speed runs ARE.NOT.HARD. Its a stupid, random hoop to jump through to create a wonderful time-sink to bide time til content. I'm glad you can do it with all the jobs, but having a few minutes left over compared to job stacking and having 10-12+ minutes left over... kinda supports the OP's idea in the OP. lol

you have never done speedrun have you? even with job stacking, time left on clock is usually 3mins. 5-6mins with a great team and close to zero mistakes.

Killing cluster of mobs will only takes few seconds more without BLM stackings because apparently nobody knows other jobs has AoE.

I am not saying speedrun is great either, it shouldnt be the method to get best gears in every raid. But, speedrun does test your teamwork and your skills.

[Sol_Aureus]

OP was saying that speed runs are stupid, and while you CAN do them with diversity it favors job stacking. You can do them all NP with whatever jobs,true, but it doesn't make it the most effective method. I agree with OP, btw. Speed runs for best loot is not a challenge, speed runs ARE.NOT.HARD. Its a stupid, random hoop to jump through to create a wonderful time-sink to bide time til content. I'm glad you can do it with all the jobs, but having a few minutes left over compared to job stacking and having 10-12+ minutes left over... kinda supports the OP's idea in the OP. lol

[size=100]EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS FAVOR JOB STACKING. FOREVER.[/size]

Seriously people need to get this through their head. EVERYTHING will have an "ideal job" for it. As long as other jobs can do just fine and it's not a requirement to be on a specific job to do an event, then events are fine. There will always be a specific mob who's weak to a specific type of damage so a specific job will be specifically suited to do a little more damage than the other jobs. Just because everyone has all 50s already doesn't mean you have to change. Just get better at your main job and quit complaining about how a class with elemental attacks deals more damage against something that's weak to an element or how ranged classes have range.

[DoctorMog]

True dat son.

I just accepted this challenge so people would stfu about "WAAAHH I CANT COME ON MNK CUZ BLM IS HOW THE GUIDE SAZ U HAZ TO DO IT"

Anyone notice that BG and DoW make the tutorials on how to do things, then bitch at us for using our own invented methods as "the norm"? lol

I'm going to start uploading my tutorials with the hardest possible combination of classes and leave everyone to figure out optimal setups on their own so they will stfu already.

[Alderton]

True dat son.

I just accepted this challenge so people would stfu about "WAAAHH I CANT COME ON MNK CUZ BLM IS HOW THE GUIDE SAZ U HAZ TO DO IT"

Anyone notice that BG and DoW make the tutorials on how to do things, then bitch at us for using our own invented methods as "the norm"? lol

It is entirely doable, AND it is more fun to do on the job you enjoy the most (go figure). Try it out, guys!

[DoctorMog]

It is entirely doable, AND it is more fun to do on the job you enjoy the most (go figure). Try it out, guys!

This guy gets it.

+1

[Scarface]

OP was saying that speed runs are stupid, and while you CAN do them with diversity it favors job stacking. You can do them all NP with whatever jobs,true, but it doesn't make it the most effective method. I agree with OP, btw. Speed runs for best loot is not a challenge, speed runs ARE.NOT.HARD. Its a stupid, random hoop to jump through to create a wonderful time-sink to bide time til content. I'm glad you can do it with all the jobs, but having a few minutes left over compared to job stacking and having 10-12+ minutes left over... kinda supports the OP's idea in the OP. lol

Obviously this person is a huge troll, runs around every thread posting like they know anything about everything.

Clearly has not done a speed run, and probably will never.

Good groups run about 5-6 minutes under the cut off, in a PERFECT run. Most runs are 2-4 minutes before the cut off. Just an FYI. Good attempt though.

Having speed run drop bodies is the best idea SE ever had. Pick-up parties getting bodies, NOTHANKS.

Going 0/30 on bodies is also nothx, but that's a different convo.