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  1. #31
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    Jinko's Avatar
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy View Post
    I think you fix this in dungeons by having no run through content, if you try to run past it you die, minibosses all of them!

    Mini-boss to unlock the gates, yes please !!

    If you attack the mini-boss prior to clearing the trash he will call it during the fight.

    Remove chest in the dungeons and have green loot randomly drop from trash, blue loot drop from bosses.

    It's simple.. I think I've seen this done in another game >.>
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    Last edited by Jinko; 03-26-2012 at 02:42 AM.

  2. #32
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    Chief Currahee
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    All I hear are the people who cant clear the dungeon with ANY setup bitching.

    Ill do a run with 1 of every class in the party tonight. FRAPS it and have it for you tomorrow. Don't confuse my intent of proving people here wrong that setup the end all of the raids. I still don't like speed being a factor for gear.
    Like that time when DH came out and people were complaining that it was a archer only fight and you said "no. no no, melee can clear it easy" and then on your live stream you wiped hard, then blamed it on not having the "A team" available to do it.

    You got 24 hours DocMog prove this community wrong! I'm rooting for you! ((take the "A team" this time!)

    Speed should be an achievment only and maybe a special title to have and brag about. Gear rewards should be based on the ability to clear the dungeon regardless of time taken to do so.

    I'll be very disapointed if they keep gear rewards for speed clears in ver 2.0 It's not a gamebreaker for me, but just a huge let down.
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    Last edited by ChiefCurrahee; 03-26-2012 at 03:52 AM.

  3. #33
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    morpheus's Avatar
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    Morph Eus
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    With the darklight drop rates as low as they are, people will be farming these dungeons as fast as they can. You can do speed runs with any jobs btw. This thread is just filled with people qq'ing cause they can't do speed runs or at least can't do it every time. If your ls sucks to much to do it, just find a better ls. Don't ruin the game for everyone else cause of your failures.

    P.S. Also please stop saying "instead of speed runs I'd rather want <fill in the blank>". Speed runs are something you tack onto the content. It doesn't matter how tough the dungeon is.
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  4. #34
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    Nexxus's Avatar
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    All I hear are the people who cant clear the dungeon with ANY setup bitching.

    Ill do a run with 1 of every class in the party tonight. FRAPS it and have it for you tomorrow.

    I wanna see 5 chest in the video of Aurum Vale. Prove us we are wrong. can't wait.

    I bet you'll get stuck on coincutter for a long time.
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  5. #35
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    Kaeko Leta
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    I thought it was well established that melees perform extremely well in Aurum Vale? At the risk of sounding inflammatory, I honestly don't see the point in this 5 chest all jobs challenge because it seems so obvious that it's possible.
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  6. #36
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    With the darklight drop rates as low as they are, people will be farming these dungeons as fast as they can. You can do speed runs with any jobs btw. This thread is just filled with people qq'ing cause they can't do speed runs or at least can't do it every time. If your ls sucks to much to do it, just find a better ls. Don't ruin the game for everyone else cause of your failures.

    P.S. Also please stop saying "instead of speed runs I'd rather want <fill in the blank>". Speed runs are something you tack onto the content. It doesn't matter how tough the dungeon is.
    Yea just leave your LS and your friend guys, throw them to the dogs we don't' need them holding us back ... /sigh

    I think you will find the majority of MMO players are casual these days and most ... uh suck as you put it.
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  7. #37
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Speed runs are hard! CC has trash mobs that die in 10 seconds, AV has 15-20 mobs you gotta sleep and a few you gotta kill to get to the first bosses.... It all comes down to killing the "bosses" fast enough to make a speed run chest.
    Speed run chests should have unique loot, they should not have the -best- loot.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeko View Post
    I thought it was well established that melees perform extremely well in Aurum Vale? At the risk of sounding inflammatory, I honestly don't see the point in this 5 chest all jobs challenge because it seems so obvious that it's possible.
    It perform well, for sure, i did some decent damage on coincutter, not as much as a blm (from parser), and very well on Mistress (for mnk), we did try to switch a mnk to a drg on mistress, and it was not so well (for the timer, not the fight).

    Dealing with coincutter can be frustrating as melee, it is doable, but you need to understand him well, how he work, when he's going to TP move, someone that haven't deal with him yet, will throw a skills and get stuck while NM is doing a 100T Swing (AoE 4k) and make the party in danger (because he doesn't fall down).

    It's possible to access 5th Chest, i don't know about the 5 chest together, with all the jobs in the pty.

    As for trash mob you'd better go with blm for their variety of AoE's, it's way faster.

    With a blm / mnk setup, the timer after the mistress is killed, is ahead 2min~ before the speed run timer end.
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    Last edited by Nexxus; 03-26-2012 at 06:01 AM.

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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yea just leave your LS and your friend guys, throw them to the dogs we don't' need them holding us back ... /sigh

    I think you will find the majority of MMO players are casual these days and most ... uh suck as you put it.
    So basically yeah dumb down the game. Gamers these days are just pathetic, all they want is to get shit handed to them.
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  10. #40
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    Buddhsie Asura
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    Sargatanas
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    The best thing about the new dungeons is that the most useful pieces are only available during speed runs. This is how it should be, the best pieces are the most difficult to get. How can you argue against this?
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