Speed Run + Timer

[DoctorMog]

True dat son.

I just accepted this challenge so people would stfu about "WAAAHH I CANT COME ON MNK CUZ BLM IS HOW THE GUIDE SAZ U HAZ TO DO IT"

Anyone notice that BG and DoW make the tutorials on how to do things, then bitch at us for using our own invented methods as "the norm"? lol

I'm going to start uploading my tutorials with the hardest possible combination of classes and leave everyone to figure out optimal setups on their own so they will stfu already.

[Alderton]

True dat son.

I just accepted this challenge so people would stfu about "WAAAHH I CANT COME ON MNK CUZ BLM IS HOW THE GUIDE SAZ U HAZ TO DO IT"

Anyone notice that BG and DoW make the tutorials on how to do things, then bitch at us for using our own invented methods as "the norm"? lol

It is entirely doable, AND it is more fun to do on the job you enjoy the most (go figure). Try it out, guys!

[DoctorMog]

It is entirely doable, AND it is more fun to do on the job you enjoy the most (go figure). Try it out, guys!

This guy gets it.

+1

[Scarface]

OP was saying that speed runs are stupid, and while you CAN do them with diversity it favors job stacking. You can do them all NP with whatever jobs,true, but it doesn't make it the most effective method. I agree with OP, btw. Speed runs for best loot is not a challenge, speed runs ARE.NOT.HARD. Its a stupid, random hoop to jump through to create a wonderful time-sink to bide time til content. I'm glad you can do it with all the jobs, but having a few minutes left over compared to job stacking and having 10-12+ minutes left over... kinda supports the OP's idea in the OP. lol

Obviously this person is a huge troll, runs around every thread posting like they know anything about everything.

Clearly has not done a speed run, and probably will never.

Good groups run about 5-6 minutes under the cut off, in a PERFECT run. Most runs are 2-4 minutes before the cut off. Just an FYI. Good attempt though.

Having speed run drop bodies is the best idea SE ever had. Pick-up parties getting bodies, NOTHANKS.

Going 0/30 on bodies is also nothx, but that's a different convo.

[DoctorMog]

Thats odd, I recall him saying this

But all we want is to play the jobs we like the most.

Speed Run is a part of a game actually, once you reach that part and you succefull the dungeon within the time limit, there's no excuse to not doing it again, and again, and again, and you'll no longer be able to use your paladin or lancer (unless you're not doing a speed run, but why ?).

Which to me means he is being stereotyped into a certain role to finish the dungeon as a speed run.



Don't go changing the argument now that I've gone and proven you wrong.

(and not just me btw, seems Sol did it too!)

[EvaEva]

Only posting the last boss but an entire run with one of every class and a ton of fuckups and we still got the speed run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqk-UGxL0rg

If you don't believe me then you have trust issues and are a scrub. Good day

[Nexxus]

Mog, you got proven you can do it, gratz, but it wont make everyone going to change that now.

Everyone is tired, bored of thoses dungeon still, and it doesn't change the part that ppl doing it for the reward at then end, the chest, and the best and easy way to do it.

Also, YOU were the one that post that FFXIV: Aurum Vale Speed Run Tutorial..

You want to prove to everyone is it doable, i'm totally agree, is it possible, but still you did that tutorial video, where we seeing a win with blm then mnk on mistress. that mean, before doing the run for the fun with all 7 classes you did it with 4 classes, it's the safest way anyway, and this is you that post it, not me.

Next dungeon, try, on your first attempt to do it with all 7 classes, without even knowing it (i mean not farming like hell).

A lot of linkshell have tried to deal with all 7 classes first, you probably did too. And most of them found out they couldn't handle as well as blm & mnk, so they switch, like you probably did at first.

It's part of optimisation, and guess what, a timer and a speed run timer get you in a hurry, you'd better use what's work the most, based on what you know, what you have seen (video and tuto).

People dont want to hurry, they want to take their time.

Tell me know you prefer way better having 5 chest instead of 5 boss that drop the same...

[Peptaru]

Lol, ya i'm changin the arguement? No. Read my posts, This has turned into people looking down their noses, I never said speed runs are hard, i said they are stupid easy and completable with any jobs, but THEY FAVOR JOB STACKING.

As this thread has apparently been overrun by the epeening, look down your nose at people cuz you think speed runs take skill crowd, I think i'm done posting in it. Doc, I like your guides, I've never copied them but they're a great general idea for a place to start. In forums you're comin off as a pompous ass, in the videos you seemed so kind.

I still think speed runs are just an awful game mechanic built to be time sinks, that hasn't changed. Grats on your speedruns, the same thing everyone else is accomplishing. Its nothing to be so stuck-up about. Byebyes!

[Matsume]

I still think speed runs are just an awful game mechanic built to be time sinks, that hasn't changed. Grats on your speedruns, the same thing everyone else is accomplishing. Its nothing to be so stuck-up about. Byebyes!

Yo... In case you didn't notice, Speed Runs are the opposite of time sinks. Speed runs allow you to get more loot in half the time of a normal run. How the hell is that a time sink as compared to spending an hour wiping left and right for nothing?

[Noir]

here a post i made on a thread,





And i want to make a thread about it, because i think it is important for the futur of the game.

As i was speaking about it with some friends they were all agree, speed run is killing the jobs system.

You'd better go with an army of blm a brd, a whm and a war tank, because it's part of optimisation.

But all we want is to play the jobs we like the most.

Speed Run is a part of a game actually, once you reach that part and you succefull the dungeon within the time limit, there's no excuse to not doing it again, and again, and again, and you'll no longer be able to use your paladin or lancer (unless you're not doing a speed run, but why ?).


Having no timer, no speed run chest.
Change each chest at the end of the dungeon by a tough boss that drop the same as the chest, taking our time to travel the dungeon, make them biggers.

I did like the how to deal with coincutter as monk, and found it funny, but if we have to do a speed run, i can no longer do it as mnk, brd or blm is the way to go there until i can finally switch to mnk for the mistress but... everyone is mnk now, i feel like i was copy/paste and lost some unique(ness) to the job i love the most.

let us taking our time finishing the dungeon, optimisation should only be strategy and gears, not jobs.

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So, who's really think Speed Run should no longer be in the game ?

Those timers are ridiculous. We ran desmael, gOt the chests, got to batraal with 12min left.
Really? I was like wtf. In the end, we couldn't make it through with the time left and wiped at batraal. Not fun. Extend or take these stupid timers out. Doesn't make sense. It was my first time there and I was like running all over the place, not enjoying the dungeon because of the stupid timer. Oh, of course no cutscenes watched because the party was half way the dungeon by the time the cutscenes end.