Whats your Wars hate cycle?

[Tango]

I'm not a fan of using the full heavy dark light set. The regular offensive set is far more interesting if you can get away with lower emnity. Right now I'm going for heavy legs/boots & regular everything else.

I would also like to remark that, not only does Antagonize raise the emnity of other abilities, it raises emnity when used as well.

Have you tried doing a set amount of dmg say 1k, then poping antagonize. Follow that with a 2nd player trying to AA up enough dmg to pull hate, see if hate is pulled at 1,001 dmg? or 1,151 (assuming you gain 15% more enmity on already incurred actions). I hope your correct but I highly doubt it.

[Angof]

Depends what I'm tanking.

For wolf camp I:

Aggro everything > Do sentinel, rampart, or collusion > steel cyclone combo > win> repeat

For ifrit I:

Antagonize > Provoke > Flash > steel cyclone combo > repeat as cooldowns are up

Yes I know I am missing out on a lot of abilities I could use for hate generation, but I find I don't really need them.

[KumaAkuma]

Have you tried doing a set amount of dmg say 1k, then poping antagonize. Follow that with a 2nd player trying to AA up enough dmg to pull hate, see if hate is pulled at 1,001 dmg? or 1,151 (assuming you gain 15% more enmity on already incurred actions). I hope your correct but I highly doubt it.

I base this on the situation I get in dungeons sometimes: I agro all mobs just by running around (blinking red), whm throws buffs on me and gets hate (colors of mobs goes to yellow, green), I use Antagonize and hate goes back up to red-ish.

Not a proper test, just something I see happening.

[carraway]

I base this on the situation I get in dungeons sometimes: I agro all mobs just by running around (blinking red), whm throws buffs on me and gets hate (colors of mobs goes to yellow, green), I use Antagonize and hate goes back up to red-ish.

Not a proper test, just something I see happening.

This is because Antagonize is a self-buff and incurs a small amount of enmity upon usage. At that point in time, the proportional amount of enmity is so low that one self-buff can shift your enmity by a substantial percentage.