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  1. #131
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    Wynn's Avatar
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Problem is.. we don't have enough jobs/classes. And that latest patch was a joke. I rather SE give us LARGE patches with all kinds of content once every few months than these small pathetic patches that everyone completes within a week..

    The exp rate is fine where it is. The amount of content we get within each patch.. isn't.

    Edit: I find you to be a hypocrite. You took advantage of the exp rate.. look at you with all your capped levels.. and now you wanna screw all the newer players by telling SE, "ok I've capped everything, now you should make it more difficult for newer players".


    Now I'm glad your LS is having a hard time with the AV/CC rewards.
    He's been here since the beginning. It is hardly a surprise he has capped levels. It doesn't make what he is saying irrelevant and, if anything, I'd say it means he has more personal experience to back his opinions than you do yours.

    This isn't about people trying to screw newbies. It is about logically thinking through to the outcome of our current situation regarding the future of this game. A + B leads to C, if you follow.

    I have the same opinion as he does and I'm not capped. What you got to say to me?
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  2. #132
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    Illmortal Tyr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Lols , are you serious? soo he is in a ls that has the teamplayer attitude enough to help him and others i would assume, get his jobs PLed to 50, (wich btw, good luck with finding a random group who is willing to sit through hours and hours of strait grind to get nothing out of it, just to PL you) he saw an opertunity and took it, I for one dont blame the man. PLs are still there, if you were'nt soo self concerned you might be in a LS that may help you with that and vise versa. But fact remains, if they dont slow down the xp gain xiv will be short lived. Like it or not. Soo only thing I can suggest to you cry babbies who havent got there yet, get while the gettins good. But dont cry when SE ends the PL and brings back the grind.

    Son... I am in.. or was in this case now, in a EU server.. where we had to grind 30 if not MORE levels solo before getting into a PT. Trust me, ain't no crying coming from me.. I just despise hypocrites.


    How about all those in favor of slower exp rate keep all their achievements except all their jobs (excluding dol/doh) start from scratch. Fair deal right? You want it, you should experience it.. it's only fair and just.
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  3. #133
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    Personally, I have been here since the initial release too, And I dont care if it screws the newbies, we stuck it out when the game sucked, we where here when the first developers got fired for being incompitant duches , we were here when the fastest xp was quick kills at 40xp a mob, when solo grind for 2 weeks was the fastest way through 30 and when the best content we had was Leves, (before faction NMs). Soo yeah , Do I care what someone who has played the game for less then a year thinks? LMFAO , NO! maybe you shouldve quit playing WoW a few months earlier to be at least caught up. If I were any new comer to the game, Be happy you still get some of the acheivments and experiance some of the content that wont exist after 2.0 and maybe one day you can convince some 2.0 new comer to belive you were here back when the game was "hard enough"
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  4. #134
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    I recently leveled all this toons jobs 'cept for thm which was in the 40's already, i did A LOT of it solo.... it was too fast.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Son... I am in.. or was in this case now, in a EU server.. where we had to grind 30 if not MORE levels solo before getting into a PT. Trust me, ain't no crying coming from me.. I just despise hypocrites.


    How about all those in favor of slower exp rate keep all their achievements except all their jobs (excluding dol/doh) start from scratch. Fair deal right? You want it, you should experience it.. it's only fair and just.
    you mean like doing 1000 leves from 1-40+ ? or all the faction leves i have to repeat? haha, SE beat you to it, and same with the DOH and DOL jobs soo, bugger off and play WoW or somthing more to your likeing, but stop trying to ruin a REAL mmo rpg by dummying it up soo everyone with 20 bucks and 8 hours a day can do engame content and essentialy beat the game in a month.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    you mean like doing 1000 leves from 1-40+ ? or all the faction leves i have to repeat? haha, SE beat you to it, and same with the DOH and DOL jobs soo, bugger off and play WoW or somthing more to your likeing, but stop trying to ruin a REAL mmo rpg by dummying it up soo everyone with 20 bucks and 8 hours a day can do engame content and essentialy beat the game in a month.
    You have me confused, kid. I played FFXI and left when they made the game, in general, easy with Abyssea.

    I personally find it a waste of time soloing that many levels. You gotta be a damn fool to solo unless you're a BST and even then, in FFXI BSTs would make a 3-4 man party and level up faster than soloing.
    Oh and soloing 40 levels doesn't make you a better player.. since this game is more party oriented than soloing. Put that in your pipe and smoke it

    lol @ WoW.. smh
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  7. #137
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    soo man up and LVL your CHRs, if it helps the game then do it, if you miss out on the easy xp, sorry for you, but dont get mad at others because they didnt, and please drop the whole "grown up" bit, you dont know me from Adam
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Problem is.. we don't have enough jobs/classes. And that latest patch was a joke. I rather SE give us LARGE patches with all kinds of content once every few months than these small pathetic patches that everyone completes within a week..

    The exp rate is fine where it is. The amount of content we get within each patch.. isn't.

    Edit: I find you to be a hypocrite. You took advantage of the exp rate.. look at you with all your capped levels.. and now you wanna screw all the newer players by telling SE, "ok I've capped everything, now you should make it more difficult for newer players".


    Now I'm glad your LS is having a hard time with the AV/CC rewards.
    hey why don't you look and see when i capped my last class. when the exp increases came in i had 2 classes left and they were both 36+. i did my time getting around 10k an hour getting levels. you cannot say the same. i am not a hypocrite, but you are a whiny little child expecting things to be handed to you.

    i stayed and played since i joined the game and have taken no breaks from the game so of course my levels are reflected in that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Lols , are you serious? soo he is in a ls that has the teamplayer attitude enough to help him and others i would assume, get his jobs PLed to 50
    here's the funny part. when pl came into the game and easy exp was given out i had 2 classes that weren't capped. my 36 gla and my 36 lnc. i partied to 40 on raptors and then went into the srtongholds so, no i didn't even get to use the pl methods nor would i have. i just think the sp is too fast now just like it was too slow originally.

    hell i got my first 50 back when the best way to level was in copperbell getting very little sp per mob killing one at a time.

    edit: lizard i also decided to look at your profile on pro. it's nice to see someone talking about how leveling is fine when you started 12-12-2011 and already have every battle class to cap. so you think capping 7 classes in 3 months is the right amount of leveling?
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    Last edited by darkstarpoet1; 03-27-2012 at 04:07 PM.


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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    Problem is.. we don't have enough jobs/classes. And that latest patch was a joke. I rather SE give us LARGE patches with all kinds of content once every few months than these small pathetic patches that everyone completes within a week..

    The exp rate is fine where it is. The amount of content we get within each patch.. isn't.

    Edit: I find you to be a hypocrite. You took advantage of the exp rate.. look at you with all your capped levels.. and now you wanna screw all the newer players by telling SE, "ok I've capped everything, now you should make it more difficult for newer players".


    Now I'm glad your LS is having a hard time with the AV/CC rewards.
    You are missing the point saying that .... it is because the lvling system is too fast that the patches dosent last.

    You can easily get a job from 0 to 50 in 2 or 3 days. Then run around for a couple of hours to get the job.
    This is the real problem that kills the game.

    Toto-rak is useless because there is no use for those lvl 30 stuff.
    NMs are useless because most of them drop 35 stuff.
    Quests become irrelevant since the items and experience given can be obtained by 1 min in an EXP party.
    Low level crafts are also useless since you level to fast. low level items that should be cheap because a lot of people make them become expensive since no one bother to make them.

    Then when the leveling is done what do we have left .... Crafting CC AV Ifrit Moogle, still better than only ifrit and moogle but people get my point i think.

    The content is a part of the problem but it would be way better if the pace of the game was slower.

    Slowing Xp would make a lot more stuff relevant but this is my opinion.
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  10. #140
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    I just have 1 job to 50, and it took me 3 months to level playing casually, and I think that the leveling is way too fast, compared to what I expected from the experience in FFXI.

    And the problem is that mobs are much MUCH easier, in FFXI the main problem was that you killed, in a party of 6, 1 mob every 2 - 3 minutes on average, getting from 200 to 500 exp points depending on chains. Here you fight groups of 4+ mobs that give the same exp AND chains and you can be getting 700+ exp not counting the new rested bonus or food, while the exp required to level is the same scale that was in FFXI, so naturally, we can fill it faster.

    I can only see two ways of fixing this, and one is make the mobs harder so the fights take more time (extending the time where we can chain too) or giving the same experience reward for a pack of mobs to what FFXI gave in the day for just a mob, so about 200 - 500 exp, now you have the same curve, the same fun and excting battles against groups of mobs and a stepper leveling curve.

    The ideal would be balancing the two, making the mobs harder so the fights last longer, and reducing a bit the experience they give, and then the experience of leveling would be much more fulfilling.

    Also and ting with this I was disappointed to find that the new Jobs are just extensions of the existing ones, and not jobs that you had to start at Lvl 1 like in the old way. This makes just the people who have the base jobs maxed a walk in the park to get the new jobs and gear, so it feels that there isn't much new content, when that is not really the case.

    I don't know how SE will add new jobs in the future, but I hope they add mroe base jobs that we have to level from scratch, that would increase the meaning of the lower levels again.
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