maybe its just me...but is leveling too fast in your opinion?

[Zaphod]

We're not here to discuss whether or not people have a real life, which should be irrelevant to any feature. Just because you have a "real life" doesn't mean your opinion is any more important.

The fact of the matter is by now anyone that started at retail could easily have all 50s and still only have played an hour a day and even have had them before 1.19 came out. Anyone that doesn't have their head up their @$$ and can do basic mathematics knows this.

I think we're just two very different types of players. What I'm saying actually is relevant, just not well received by players like you. I certainly don't mean any offense, but for this game to stay alive, it has to have players that subscribe to it. If you've got time, here's a really good read about FFXI: http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff11

There was a time when playing the game for any length of time under an hour in any capacity was impossible to do in FFXI. You couldn't just.. hop in and play for a while and then stop. An hour was how long it took to just get ready.

I'm very sure that the majority of players in this game are high school aged, or else college students, with fewer adults. Very nice people. But it becomes very hard to play when time constraints step into view. Like it or not, this game has to cater to people like me who can't sit down for hours everyday. It's not because I'm cool, or constantly doing interesting stuff. I'm a dork! I literally don't have the time. but if you do have the time, you shouldn't really be decreeing that leveling should take longer so that me, and other people like me who generally aren't on this forum, can't play at all.

[Answa]

yeah, that's understood because you haven't reached it yet. when you get here you will realize the only endgame content that's viable and worth doing is the av dungeon, cc dungeon, and ifrit. the patches have done a number on the older content. the world nm's are a waste to even look at because the gear from them are worthless, moogle gear was worthless on release, and darkhold has been completely outclassed as well.

you can literally get with a good group and get your job gear and then go with that group and do every piece of worth while endgame content in right over an hour. with a good group that can do endgame content and go do a speed run in av(25 min), speed run in cc(25 min), and kill ifrit in even less time than that. you are looking at right at an hour and you have done everything high level this game has to offer that is worth the time to do.

right now there's just not much at high level to support the speed in which people level now. sure there's other things you CAN do like the 5 world nm's, darkhold, and moogle. the thing is the gear drops from them fails in comparison to crafted gear so it's just being done as something to pass boredom ad not actually having a purpose to them besides an achievement in your history and nothing else.

i'm leaving out the strongholds because those are not what i'd consider high level content since most people just use them for leveling and bond parties at the coffers.

I don't agree completely with what you say. The one thing you said that is the least true in my opinion is that Dzemael Darkhold is useless now. It's currently the best, least inane way to acquire company seals.

[Peptaru]

Make a static, xp for one hour every day (or 4-6 hours a week) with people like yourself, you'd be capped very quickly. Or even just do leves with a duo partner... you'd be capped very quickly. I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks the leveling speed is at all okay. It is entirely too fast, and just gets faster the higher you go. If people have set themselves into the group that plays way less because of reasons: "X, Y, and Z" its fine. i'm glad to have them playing with me! Anyone expecting to be 50 at the same time as a bunch of other people who play way more are setting and asking for unrealistic goals.

This game has found a few really good ways to gain xp while short on time. Yes they are repetitive, but its not as if players have no options. It isn't that someone cannot XP if they only have a couple hours here and there.

[Dubberrucky]

Every job at 15+ and 1 at 50? How did you do that so fast? Are you including crafting and gathering jobs? Did you powerlevel? Or were you constantly in hardcore exp groups? Did you take the time to do all the main story quests, GC quests, and job quests, and dungeons like shposhae and totorak??

Granted I started during vacation where I had a very enjoyable week to play 24-7 and yes I have all my crafts above 10 but highest is only 16 gathering all started but between 1-10. I soloed everything to 15 but I joined a very friendly LS who do come out with me so no it was not all solo either but I would not call it hardcore being leves most of the time in groups of 3 or 4. I do not believe I have done the entire story line but my little bubble is not blinking at me and Ive done all my flagged quests and every ! bubble I can find in all 3 cities so anyone's guess to be honest. I am not a very high rank yet in my GC but I have ran Totorak and DH several times so far. The GC quests are very boring that I have encountered so far but the cs for each were fun. Like I said in my 1st post I do have hope for better low-mid game content but it needs work from this noobies point of view.

[Dragon]

I think we're just two very different types of players. What I'm saying actually is relevant, just not well received by players like you. I certainly don't mean any offense, but for this game to stay alive, it has to have players that subscribe to it. If you've got time, here's a really good read about FFXI: http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff11

The game will lose subscribers when all you do is log in for an event; the game will lose subscribers when you can just play it for a month and that's the end of it. FFXI's only problem, at most, was the soloability, which has in fact been fixed in this game.

It is not relevant at all that you have a life because it's no one's business whether you have a life or not; we're not negotiating your future salary. You act like someone that should just be allowed to tell a football team how to do their job because you work for a living.

There was a time when playing the game for any length of time under an hour in any capacity was impossible to do in FFXI. You couldn't just.. hop in and play for a while and then stop. An hour was how long it took to just get ready.

We're not talking about FFXI here, we're talking about FFXIV where anyone's grandma can solo 1-20 in several hours, solo 20~30 in another several hours, and get 30~50 in only a matter of hours. Why the hell should content even be released when everyone can have their Lv.50 class in a week? That's not even considering how much EXP one can get from PL'ing, either.

I'm very sure that the majority of players in this game are high school aged, or else college students, with fewer adults. It becomes very hard to play when time constraints step into view. Like it or not, this game has to cater to people like me who can't sit down for hours everyday. It's not because I'm cool or constantly doing interesting stuff. I'm a dork. It's just not an option.

Why should this game have to cater to you? Because you have a life? Get over yourself; you may as well ask to have a character with all-50's since all you seem to be interested in is endgame.

[Vaen]

Granted I started during vacation where I had a very enjoyable week to play 24-7 and yes I have all my crafts above 10 but highest is only 16 gathering all started but between 1-10. I soloed everything to 15 but I joined a very friendly LS who do come out with me so no it was not all solo either but I would not call it hardcore being leves most of the time in groups of 3 or 4. I do not believe I have done the entire story line but my little bubble is not blinking at me and Ive done all my flagged quests and every ! bubble I can find in all 3 cities so anyone's guess to be honest. I am not a very high rank yet in my GC but I have ran Totorak and DH several times so far. The GC quests are very boring that I have encountered so far but the cs for each were fun. Like I said in my 1st post I do have hope for better low-mid game content but it needs work from this noobies point of view.

Wow, I guess they must have increased the exp on leves more than I thought They said there was going to be a temporary increase in leveling pace until 2.0 to catch noobies like us up to everyone else.

Well, I do agree that the low/mid-game content could be a lot more interesting and fun. Levequests hurt it, but Shposhae and the GC entry quests are interesting at least. In 2.0 the mid-level main story quests should be more enjoyable too. I wonder if people who already did the current main quest will be able to re-do the new main quests, even the low level ones...

[Gukswar]

WHY level sync... you migh as well JUST power level them ._. ...

[Dragon]

WHY level sync... you migh as well JUST power level them ._. ...

All power leveling is, is a hand-out; maybe we want to be able to party with our friends and do content without actually giving them handouts. Or maybe we just want to actually party with our friends, instead of doing something so boring as power leveling.

[TheVedis]

WHY level sync... you migh as well JUST power level them ._. ...

because people are trying to hijack this thread to work into their cause for level syncs

level syncs will just speed up leveling, it wont slow it down, and as many here pretty much agree on, its way too fast



personaly, i dont care if they slow it down, at this point the damage is done when it comes to 1-50, but they can ensure it wont damage the future when the cap is raised if they give us a proper exp range from 51+ where we cant gain an 2+ levels an hour in parties...


this has nothing to do with the casual vs hardcore BS some people make it out to be, its about longevity of games, yes people want to reach endgame asap, but they also can get bored if they are handed it too easily and thus wont play for long after, you have to make the journey feel like it was an accomplishment as well as make it not too unobtainable

[darkstarpoet1]

I don't agree completely with what you say. The one thing you said that is the least true in my opinion is that Dzemael Darkhold is useless now. It's currently the best, least inane way to acquire company seals.

well yeah there is the seals thing, but do you really consider running through and mauling a weak enemy like the ogre or battral a hard end game event? we've completed it many times with only 4 people easily just for drops to turn in for seals.

as far as worthless i am talking about the drops that come from there making your character more powerful. why would you go in for the alpine war jacket for your bard? the gear you had to go into there is very likely twice as good as the item you got from there.

to me running darkhold farming seals is no different than it was when people went and solo'd dodore and goblin for the drops and sold them in the wards. you did the run for currency and nothing else. it wasn't for the fun and you didn't actually want the gear. you just wanted that exchange in currency.

edit: my post was directed towards him showing what is actually viable end game content. yes, you can go to the bestmen strongholds and farm coffers/totems or yo could go to darkhold to farm seals, but neither is what i call viable end game stuff. it's more of a means to an end. it's like saying crafting is end game content for battle classes because you sell items to make gil to buy better gear. they are both only done for the currency exchange and not challenge.