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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    I’m excited with all those skill gone. Crafting and gathering felt like a chore. Just to craft one item I have to visit so many locations to gather so many items and craft one item with so many button presses... Zzz
    Not to be the bearer of bad news, but i dont think this part is changing. They got rid of and consolidated skills, but i dont think that changes what materials youll need to make a thing or where those come from. Just the buttons youll have to press to make them into stuff.
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    Eko Shahar
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 72
    I am fairly new to the game and completely new to gatherering but I just hit level 66 on BTN and MIN last night. I absolutely love Sneak -- this is probably the best QOL upgrade I've seen in games in a good long while. Leveling is too fast now. I leveled Miner from 27 to 66 in just a few hours. I was in the process of doing the gathering for a class quest and had the next class quest pop. So, I gained 5 levels before I could collect 20 HQ whatevers when that was the only thing I was doing to gain exp. All in all I really like the changes but I do expect them to nerf the experience gain before long.
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    This expansion looks so sci fi dominated. I'm excited.
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Tamamo Cat
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The changes so far to gathering I am happy about.
    Getting rid of the dumb 'discover' mechanic when you already know what nodes they are gave us an extra attempt which is sooo nice now you get skills to proc now without needing to be lucky on if it was a + attempts node.
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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 72
    If you have the melded dwarven cotton / swallowskin set the facet gathering set is useless overkill.

    All the legendary nodes were at 100% for me. In 5.0 they were 93 - 99%.

    On an alt who is still in the yamashi set zonurskin maps, formerly 83%, are now 100%. Petalite is 100%, etherael cocoons are 98%.
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    Last edited by Shadygrove; 10-30-2019 at 07:10 AM.

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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    If you have the melded dwarven cotton / swallowskin set the facet gathering set is useless overkill.

    All the legendary nodes were at 100% for me. In 5.0 they were 93 - 99%.

    On an alt who is still in the yamashi set zonurskin maps, formerly 83%, are now 100%. Petalite is 100%, etherael cocoons are 98%.
    Not true. It'll still raise the HQ chance. Its not as useful as the new crafting sets but still helps. I'll probably craft a set after I'm finished with my crafter gear.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I like quick gather. Auto Sneak is nice. Not seeing much difference to Aetherial Reduction but that's fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Not true. It'll still raise the HQ chance. Its not as useful as the new crafting sets but still helps. I'll probably craft a set after I'm finished with my crafter gear.
    Personal preference if that makes it worth it, but due to Brunt Force, extra GP and an extra gathering attempt I'm getting more than enough HQ from legendary nodes. I'm using a cotton/swallowskin set with no overmelds, just 6's in the main slots and have 100% gather rate and 10% base hq. I see no reason to upgrade, especially since my current set allows me to convert my accessories to materia continually. Seems overkill tbh.
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    SO.

    1). Quick Gather DOES save lots of time. That 1 second or so that the game pauses before it registers your click is quite noticeable.
    2). The Auto-Sneak is just so good. You aren't slowed by sneaking anymore and it's always up. HOWEVER, if you change to DoL while in town your Sneak will NOT be up. Don't forget about this if you go out after changing while in town.
    3). As far as I can tell, the crystal yield skill does exactly the same thing as it used to, only there's 1 button that works on all crystals and shards.
    4). They appear to have somewhat boosted XP gains, I was just gathering materials for my crafting binge and I gained a level or two on my 70+ gatherers today quite easily. Or at least it felt that way.

    Otherwise, it seems to be pretty much the same as it always was.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    With the big skill shakeup, this made a decent opportunity for me to go back through and basically reset/reorganize my hotbars on both gatherers and crafters.

    I think there may still be a few gathering skills that could still be cut out, though, I can also see their purpose. We've still got a number of skills that are only good for a single gather attempt, rather than for the entire life of the node. I can understand still keeping those skills, pretty sure they stack with the better versions, and they're cheaper, if you're not chugging cordials or too impatient for passive recovery. Idk. I get it, but, they still feel kinda like useless bloat.

    Convenient to have the Toil skills auto-activate now as well.

    They've set it so exclusively-collectable crafted items are only ever crafted as collectables now, so, wonder how long before we'll see something similar for the gathering equivalents. Would be nice to know when not to collect a pile of something that sounds possibly useful only to be garbage.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Hasrat, the one-swing skills do stack with the all-swing skills. I was using King’s Yield 2 on the new ore last night, and Pick Clean, for 4/swing. Once my GP rose back above 100 using Bountiful Yield would see the next swing garner 5.

    As for gathering ‘garbage’ ... you should be able to avoid that now. Item tooltips have the words Crafting Material on them when they are used in a crafting recipe - with the possible exception of gear, that is; I’m not sure if the low level gear that is used to make a stronger piece of gear has that term on it. But seeing as gear is not something you mine or harvest anyway ...
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