Thread: Patch 5.1 Notes (Preliminary)

Originally Posted by LauraAdalena

Which they brought back once. Why would they not? Plus, who is to say they won't bring back the mount in 2 weeks time. Even if it's unobtainable, why is it "I'm scared of" levels of upset when it could still be two weeks from now when we don't know. They could very well bring it back, and even if they don't they could bring back the Moogle event Mk. 3.

The problem here is you and I are on two different sides of the coin. I'm pessimistically looking at the total removal of the content, you're optimistically assuming it will all be back with a new coat of paint in a couple weeks and/or all the rewards will still be obtainable. Really nothing else to say about it but "time will tell." For what it's worth, I hope you're right.

I did the math, after getting every item Jehantel has the 230 points you get from these are not needed. They are unnecessary to get every item in the game tied to achievements. If the achievement is gone, then it's gone, goodbye, sayonara. It doesn't matter. It's a footnote of the game. it's a little pat on the back for doing something. Achievement hunters will be sad, but a majority of people won't care. I am with the majority because I don't care.

The achievement tokens are not the point. The points are the point. And yes achievement hunters care, you don't. That doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Seeing as this and the crafting changes are the two most talked about things from the notes so far, I would say interest in it is slightly above lukewarm at the moment.

Why does it matter? You say all these things but never explain why.

Because I care? Why should anyone have to defend their interests in this game? I'm an achievement hunter, and I am a person who enjoys experiencing content at my own pace. Luckily I did get to experience most of what Diadem offered, so I'm in a better position than most. That doesn't mean I don't understand why this sudden decision is a problem. The entire gist of your responses has consistently been "I don't care, so I don't think you or anyone else should care."

But yeah, we'll see when it's actually released how the coin falls. I'm rooting for you.

Originally Posted by Espritduo

The problem here is you and I are on two different sides of the coin. I'm pessimistically looking at the total removal of the content, you're optimistically assuming it will all be back with a new coat of paint in a couple weeks and/or all the rewards will still be obtainable.

They literally announced it in the live letter that the Diadem will be reopen for the Ishgard restauration content.

Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

They literally announced it in the live letter that the Diadem will be reopen for the Ishgard restauration content.

Do you have a link to the specific part of the live letter?

Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

They literally announced it in the live letter that the Diadem will be reopen for the Ishgard restauration content.

Yes, which is why we all assumed there was nothing to worry about, and were looking forward to the new Diadem. Then the prelim path notes drop saying exploratory missions are being removed and the achievements will no longer be obtainable, which means the content behind it will be gone. Not changed. Gone. Here's the blurb from the notes so you can see how clear it is they are flat out removing the entire thing:

Exploratory missions have been removed.

The following adjustments have been made in accordance with the above:

Exploratory missions will no longer appear in the Timers window.
Exploratory missions will no longer appear as a duty in the Party Finder menu.
Achievements related to exploratory missions will no longer be obtainable.

Whatever the new Diadem is, it certainly looks like it will not let you obtain anything from the old Diadem ever again.

Originally Posted by Espritduo

Yes, which is why we all assumed there was nothing to worry about, and were looking forward to the new Diadem. Then the prelim path notes drop saying exploratory missions are being removed and the achievements will no longer be obtainable, which means the content behind it will be gone. Not changed. Gone. Here's the blurb from the notes so you can see how clear it is they are flat out removing the entire thing:

Exploratory missions have been removed.

The following adjustments have been made in accordance with the above:

Exploratory missions will no longer appear in the Timers window.
Exploratory missions will no longer appear as a duty in the Party Finder menu.
Achievements related to exploratory missions will no longer be obtainable.

Whatever the new Diadem is, it certainly looks like it will not let you obtain anything from the old Diadem ever again.

It is likely they are changing the system to work like Eureka. Instead of trying to queue in with a Full Party you queue in solo. They are likely also removing the distinction between Trials of the Matron and Trials of the Fury. The Achievements being permanently removed (if any) are likely the "Feet/Hands/Head in the Clouds I-IV" and "Have a Haillenarte I-IV" achievements which are based on evaluation and completion as those systems will likely be removed replaced by other achievements.

Crown of Thorns I-V, Crowning Achievement I-III and Gem and the Hallowed Lands will likely return along with all current rewards once they finish the Diadem update in addition to new rewards and achievements.

Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge

They literally announced it in the live letter that the Diadem will be reopen for the Ishgard restauration content.

Yeah but they also wrote in the Patchnotes that: Achievements related to exploratory missions will no longer be obtainable.

Which makes it clear that the Notorious Monster Hunter title will be gone forever.

For achievement hunters who not had the chance to get that title it is just a punch in the guts.

Especially cause they announced the Garo Title and Mount removal months ago over and over again.
And this... mere 4 days.

For a game that has the most "Dev => Player communication about future plans" this is just sad.