Thread: Patch 5.1 Notes (Preliminary)

Originally Posted by KageTokage

They buffed BLU's spells due to off-guard/peculiar light both being turned into Trick Attack-like effects that only apply a weak 5% debuff that can't be stacked due to the shared cooldowns (They used to boost damage by 50%/30% respectively).

BLU will have no issues with target swapping now and their single target DPS is apparently higher overall now. AoE DPS went down a bit, though.

It's a small price to pay, but AoEs are still pretty damaging. At most it's roughly a 5-20 potency decrease across most of the AoE spells past the first target when comparing their damage to their original values. The big spells that got hit especially hard were the primal ones. Mountain Buster/Shock Strike take a 110 potency drop compared to the previous value while Glass Dance takes a 115 potency hit.

Originally Posted by Cyreil

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8f585de35774cc

Come and get it.

So many changes... My head is about to explode, and I haven't finished reading it all.

I was hoping to see : "Yes/No confirmations removed for actions that can be quickly undone." No luck on that wish.

Originally Posted by Kyonika

So... If Diadems are effectively being removed, how are we supposed to get the crafting mats from Trials of the Matron? And on that note, why were we not informed of this change earlier?

I think they did. They said they were removing it to rework it into Ishguardian restoration.

Originally Posted by Kyonika

This also means that the Pegasus mount and Unicolt minion will no longer be obtainable, along with some glamour gear. Am I right?

They are a mount, a minion, and I'm fairly certain the only gear from Diadem were technically formless or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong. Plus, I don't think enough people were running those to get those mounts/minions? And I think there was a tiny Broncheosaur? Once more, correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by Kyonika

First the Garo discontinuation,

An even that was said to end eventually, yes.

Originally Posted by Kyonika

then the 1500 required commendations for battle mentor,

A minor change to hopefully reduce the mentors that don't know what they're doing or are jerks (and even then, 1500 is not that many commendations and I had way more than that within the time of HW's launch and SB's launch), I really don't get why this is a big deal when it's a very minor change and one that's only kind of a test (at least from my understanding).

Originally Posted by Kyonika

and now this. To tell the truth, 5.1 will be the first major update of this game - ever - that I am actually dreading.

If this is what you dread, then I worry for you. This is very minor stuff. An event, a minor mentor change of a silly number, and a duty being reworked.

Originally Posted by LauraAdalena

I think they did. They said they were removing it to rework it into Ishguardian restoration.

They said they would be reworking the diadem content to use it for the Restoration. In no way did that imply, considering past reworks, that they would flat out remove the stuff obtainable from the old Diadem and make it impossible to obtain. There is no way anyone would have expected this, especially going by what they have done in the past.

They are a mount, a minion, and I'm fairly certain the only gear from Diadem were technically formless or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong. Plus, I don't think enough people were running those to get those mounts/minions? And I think there was a tiny Broncheosaur? Once more, correct me if I'm wrong.

In total, there was the Pegasus mount, pegasus minion, brachiosaurus minion, the entirety of the sky rat gear (very cool looking gear btw) and the associated diadem-only mats required to craft it, the Coven weapons (which they *just* added gnb and dnc weps too for some reason), the Notorious Monster Slayer title, and 230 achievement points total. Not to mention the actual content itself, which was an entirely new map, loads of unique mobs, fates and NM's (the brachiosaurus NM fate is something any FF fan should want to experience), and the Emergency Mission with Buer and all his craziness. All of this will be gone in FOUR DAYS with no warning to the playerbase to do anything about it. Nothing minor about this and anyone who is upset is justifiably so.

I think most people assumed when the mention of Diadem being used for Ishgard was dropped, that at least some of the above would become more accessible and new players would be given a chance to experience and obtain it come 5.1. A lot of us planned to wait until 5.1 to have another crack at the Diadem goals we never finished or started. To suddenly be told that it is the exact opposite and it's all being taken away immediately, honestly, beggars belief.

Originally Posted by Espritduo

They said they would be reworking the diadem content to use it for the Restoration. In no way did that imply, considering past reworks, that they would flat out remove the stuff obtainable from the old Diadem and make it impossible to obtain. There is no way anyone would have expected this, especially going by what they have done in the past.



In total, there was the Pegasus mount, pegasus minion, brachiosaurus minion, the entirety of the sky rat gear (very cool looking gear btw) and the associated diadem-only mats required to craft it, the Coven weapons (which they *just* added gnb and dnc weps too for some reason), the Notorious Monster Slayer title, and 230 achievement points total. Not to mention the actual content itself, which was an entirely new map, loads of unique mobs, fates and NM's (the brachiosaurus NM fate is something any FF fan should want to experience), and the Emergency Mission with Buer and all his craziness. All of this will be gone in FOUR DAYS with no warning to the playerbase to do anything about it. Nothing minor about this and anyone who is upset is justifiably so.

I think most people assumed when the mention of Diadem being used for Ishgard was dropped, that at least some of the above would become more accessible and new players would be given a chance to experience and obtain it come 5.1. A lot of us planned to wait until 5.1 to have another crack at the Diadem goals we never finished or started. To suddenly be told that it is the exact opposite and it's all being taken away immediately, honestly, beggars belief.

As someone who did this content on-content, a lot of this is, in fact, very minor stuff. The mount and minion are obtainable in POTD and very easily. The Coven weapons are just for show and a very small chance to get if you even clear the Emergency Missions which (as much as I love it) got increasingly harder to clear the less people listened and the more people cleared. The achievement points can be obtained elsewhere, they aren't removing that. The title is a minor loss. The content was bad because you needed a very large party to do most of it and most of the time you couldn't get people to set foot in it (even on-content) which meant it died very quickly pre and post reboot. And post reboot queues made it impossible to get into it at all afaik without getting a PF together. All of this will be gone for TWO WEEKS while they re-adjust things. They never said it was all gone permanently.

They are adjusting it because it needs to be accessible by level 1 players as their goal for the Ishgard restoration is that level 1 and level 80 players will all be able to join in and help. Which, believe it or not, is making something more accessible. And even then, this sounds like another "male viera" thing where people are complaining about hopes they got this idealized dream-like thing where they thought "Oh wow, I'll be able to do this, this, and this!" instead of waiting to see what happened. Hell, I still think people who want male viera have this cute bunny/hare boy idea in their heads and would probably be angry if they didn't make that. Which gives me the idea that if in 2 weeks after the patch it's not exactly like it was in the past we'll have people getting upset that Diadem isn't what they wanted exactly. Which confuses me to me since I hated the place at first, disliked the stuff outside of Emergency Missions second, and now just wants to see what it becomes. The fact that people are getting upset over content I found dull, drab, and uninteresting, honestly, beggars belief after watching people throw it under the bus for almost 4 years now.