Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
\Going to emphasise this since people seem to not understand, in XI you did not have to do hnms to get the hnm drops there were other methods.

2) For hnms tokens are horrible system unless the token are so restrictive it will take along time to get anything. The last thing we need is a gear give away. As for having to be a leader to get gear... you were a member of a really garage guild. In the end if you are in a guild where the leaders put themselves first on lotting, you are the fool for being in it. It is a failure of leadership if this is case and foolishness of the player to remain in that guild. Most well run guilds this is not the case.
In the beginning, FFXI HNM gear could only be obtained from them (I emphasize in the beginning, from what you say it changed after I left, which is good.)

Token systems can be done in a way that is fair and not a giveaway.

If guilds are the way you say, then I seem to have horrible luck finding good guilds >.< (like seriously) because everyone I have joined, be it in XI, XIV, SWTOR, or otherwise; has been that way.