Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
No not really, numbers do not lie.

Look at sub count pre and post abysea. Look at relic count from vanadiel census pre abysea and look at the last one. ~50% of the sub count did not just 1 day all go hey I am going to quit and never come back.

There is no opinion in that post, everything is fact and that is the scary part. You can deny that abysea killed the game for hardcores, but there is more then enough posting that on every forum on the web that proves a lot who quit use that as the reason.
Fact, the game is not dead.. Secondly, this forum is only 3% of the entire FFXIV gaming community. Not sure about FFXI.
Fact, the game is still profitable.
Fact, the game is old.. I'm not surprised.