Highly Notorious Monsters

[Jeronlmo]

I'd rather spend those 30 minutes playing the game instead of looking for something to do and then having the grand "competition" against other lses that lasted One second.

HNM's was a very small part of FF11, very very small. HNM's is not something you had to do, ein was an option, HNM's were a bonus chance at ein gear, so basically you could go to ein, which literally last like... 30min, yet the option to do something that you specifically might not find fun was still available for those that did... do you really not get this?

The ""competition"" of HNM's atleast lasted forever, unlike other games who think "competition" is achievment based (false progression) on doing something first... so a total of 6 people get claim over something forever because they have a ls full of people who can take a full week off work all at the same time every single patch.

[Jeronlmo]

I think by gathering items required to lure a special monster out is better than waiting for a pop window. For example, a good way to compliment this is with triggered pops, and tiered HNMs found in ffxi magian trials.

You started off well, then ruined it. Pop NM's atleast in the context of sky/sea was amazing, they should have more of it over instanced NM's, and I/many others could not care less which you prefer, they should all be included. The common casual idea is if I personally do not want to do it, remove it from the game so people cannot say I cant/wont.

Personally ive found content in games I personally do not enjoy (see PvP), but I do understand that many others do enjoy PvP, and reguardless if I personally do the events, others will, and those people at some point make contact with PvE content and add items/money to the AH/economy and party with me/others who level up. They also obv add to the sub count and the developers have more money to work with.

[Kikosho]

HNM's was a very small part of FF11, very very small. HNM's is not something you had to do, ein was an option, HNM's were a bonus chance at ein gear, so basically you could go to ein, which literally last like... 30min, yet the option to do something that you specifically might not find fun was still available for those that did... do you really not get this?

The ""competition"" of HNM's atleast lasted forever, unlike other games who think "competition" is achievment based (false progression) on doing something first... so a total of 6 people get claim over something forever because they have a ls full of people who can take a full week off work all at the same time every single patch.

My point is completely lost on you.

[Andrien]

in the context of sky/sea was amazing

Yes, it was amazing. In that essence, I'm glad you agree with me.

[Phe]

I'd rather spend those 30 minutes playing the game instead of looking for something to do and then having the grand "competition" against other lses that lasted One second.

this. very much this.
waiting 30 minutes and not getting claim is just a waste of time. nothing else.

and to those who say "sometimes its fun to wait! omg the excitement!" i don't get it really.
i mean do you also wait in front of a water boiler and watch it in pleasant anticipation until the bubbles come up?

please.

[Galliano]

This thread gets my...

[Exn]

My point is completely lost on you.

That's because you didn't make a point..

I also talked (at length..) about the fact that you don't have to wait and twiddle your thumbs between windows. You also could continue to playwhile waiting between windows (limit parties in Mt. Z while camping Cerb, farming in A. Chasm or running ppl up the mtn while camping Tia, skillup parties in the Tree while camping Faf/Nidd). Or you could go handle other RL things like I and Jeronimo also suggested.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...027#post939027

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...911#post939911

Our point is, you didn't make a point, because you can still do whatever you want to do in between those windows.

[Phe]

Our point is, you didn't make a point, because you can still do whatever you want to do in between those windows.

except... well...

enjoy the game! -.-

because killing trash in the meantime is no fun at all.

[Exn]

except... well...

play the game! -.-

Obviously you don't read..

[Phe]

actually i don't even care.

as long as the drops can be found elsewhere with a higher chance, i can live with it.
when people want to play a game for going afk and do RL stuff (seriously wtf), go ahead.
and give them 5 hour time windows with random spawn so that the waste of time is massive enough when their Ls is not getting the claim.