Highly Notorious Monsters

[Firon]

Just to note on pop windows you never had to sit through the whole 30 min window. If X mob was set to spawn @ 2:45:00. The only time you had to watch the clock was @ 3:15:00 and so on. So you only had to be at the pc for a total of 10 secs, but of course you would want to be there 3 mins ahead of time.

I just usually got my house work done in between windows or other things. I still think windows should be gone, however I think the pop conditions we had in 1.0 were fine just need a bit of tweaking.

[Jeronlmo]

Just to note on pop windows you never had to sit through the whole 30 min window. If X mob was set to spawn @ 2:45:00. The only time you had to watch the clock was @ 3:15:00 and so on. So you only had to be at the pc for a total of 10 secs, but of course you would want to be there 3 mins ahead of time.

I just usually got my house work done in between windows or other things. I still think windows should be gone, however I think the pop conditions we had in 1.0 were fine just need a bit of tweaking.

The bonus of long windows, as you said, you can get things done around the house/school work/relax, but I found nothing redeeming to 5min respawns, all this created was endless hours of time when you did not want to afk so you could out-claim the other group every 5mins until your entire group/ls had the gear.

Given compared to 30min windows your just shoving prob months of windows into a day with 5min windows so the crazy camping wont last long, but should the goal ever really be to end content as fast as possible?

[Kikosho]

The bonus of long windows, as you said, you can get things done around the house/school work/relax...

I'd rather spend those 30 minutes playing the game instead of looking for something to do and then having the grand "competition" against other lses that lasted One second.

[Jeronlmo]

I'd rather spend those 30 minutes playing the game instead of looking for something to do and then having the grand "competition" against other lses that lasted One second.

HNM's was a very small part of FF11, very very small. HNM's is not something you had to do, ein was an option, HNM's were a bonus chance at ein gear, so basically you could go to ein, which literally last like... 30min, yet the option to do something that you specifically might not find fun was still available for those that did... do you really not get this?

The ""competition"" of HNM's atleast lasted forever, unlike other games who think "competition" is achievment based (false progression) on doing something first... so a total of 6 people get claim over something forever because they have a ls full of people who can take a full week off work all at the same time every single patch.

[Kikosho]

HNM's was a very small part of FF11, very very small. HNM's is not something you had to do, ein was an option, HNM's were a bonus chance at ein gear, so basically you could go to ein, which literally last like... 30min, yet the option to do something that you specifically might not find fun was still available for those that did... do you really not get this?

The ""competition"" of HNM's atleast lasted forever, unlike other games who think "competition" is achievment based (false progression) on doing something first... so a total of 6 people get claim over something forever because they have a ls full of people who can take a full week off work all at the same time every single patch.

My point is completely lost on you.

[Exn]

My point is completely lost on you.

That's because you didn't make a point..

I also talked (at length..) about the fact that you don't have to wait and twiddle your thumbs between windows. You also could continue to playwhile waiting between windows (limit parties in Mt. Z while camping Cerb, farming in A. Chasm or running ppl up the mtn while camping Tia, skillup parties in the Tree while camping Faf/Nidd). Or you could go handle other RL things like I and Jeronimo also suggested.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...027#post939027

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...911#post939911

Our point is, you didn't make a point, because you can still do whatever you want to do in between those windows.

[Phe]

Our point is, you didn't make a point, because you can still do whatever you want to do in between those windows.

except... well...

enjoy the game! -.-

because killing trash in the meantime is no fun at all.

[AttacKat]

Our point is, you didn't make a point, because you can still do whatever you want to do in between those windows.

You tried to make your point, but to many, myself included, failed to prove it is required in ARR.

Please explain why we should pay SE a month sub for a game with a newly developed engine that it still requires us to wait to play?

As I have already said many pages back, is that since I paid for a game, therefore as a paying customer, it is my right to play any of the features that are offered by the game and my char are qualified to, at the time I have available to me, and not some preset time determined by some meaningless in-game clock.

Timers existed in 1.0 due to crappy system design to reduce server congesting, and they do not have a place in ARR.

jc

[Phe]

I'd rather spend those 30 minutes playing the game instead of looking for something to do and then having the grand "competition" against other lses that lasted One second.

this. very much this.
waiting 30 minutes and not getting claim is just a waste of time. nothing else.

and to those who say "sometimes its fun to wait! omg the excitement!" i don't get it really.
i mean do you also wait in front of a water boiler and watch it in pleasant anticipation until the bubbles come up?

please.