Highly Notorious Monsters

[Myono_Mhigo]

I totally agree with Nadrojj. I'm one of those who never got to HNM's in XI, atleast not the ones your referring to. Fafnir, never seen it. Not that I didn't try, but EVERY HNM LS on XI didn't just ask if you bot but REQUIRED it. I applied many times on multiple servers and everytime, denied. Why? would not/could not bot. I loved the "idea" of HNMs but the application left many out of the loop.

[Xatsh]

I totally agree with Nadrojj. I'm one of those who never got to HNM's in XI, atleast not the ones your referring to. Fafnir, never seen it. Not that I didn't try, but EVERY HNM LS on XI didn't just ask if you bot but REQUIRED it. I applied many times on multiple servers and everytime, denied. Why? would not/could not bot. I loved the "idea" of HNMs but the application left many out of the loop.

HNMs in XI were fundamentally flawed as it was impossible to stop bots. And HNM Shells more or less were forced to bot against each other. If 1 group did it you either watched them claim or compete against them on an equal level (Required you to break ToS and bot as well). If 1 shell got a $3,000+ packet bot another shell had to buy 1 to compete. It was a crazy cycle and clearly a poorly designed system that developed. (worked fine if there was no bots though).

If SE does add hnms, I hope it is in a way that the scenario you mentioned does not occur. The bots wars should be prevented in every way possible without removing the enjoyment of the event itself. Aka Bots are not a good reason to not add nm spawns or instance everything.

SE was getting really good ideas that made botting alot harder to do towards the end of the game (Considering Abysea the end of XI.. that sorta changed the whole game). They need to expand that more. I feel bots might not be able to be removed 100% but they can develop content to the level bots hardly add any higher chance of claiming.

[Blackpearlguy]

Not everybody in a HNM LS botted. I'm pretty sure you just had to be open to botting (meaning accept botting and don't GM your own LS members). If you were willing to bot, then +1 for your application.

Unless if you were playing on 360/PS2, stating "would not/could not bot" on your application just makes it sound like you were 100% against botting. Yes, that's fine since you're entitled to your own opinion. However, it certainly didn't help your application.

So much of this I know a guy who use to know a guy that was in a HNMLS who botted, however he did not, and he had more claims on his ps2!

Anyways I saw a post somewhere saying that Behemoth will be a FATE NM? Haven't been able to dig up any more details I just saw it in a post on BG with some other faq that has been proven true.

[KiraHime]

Anyways I saw a post somewhere saying that Behemoth will be a FATE NM? Haven't been able to dig up any more details I just saw it in a post on BG with some other faq that has been proven true.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post945001

^^