Highly Notorious Monsters

[Radacci]

also to add about F.A.T.E it's not the same, that is just an open world event. it's dumbed down cause your not in full made parties and rather you are just a solo person in a large group. it's like campaign battles. but they are hyping it with these huge boss like mobs instead. games like tera have mobs that big as normal mobs to fight and it was still boring as crap. it's not no wear near what a HHM like ffxi had.

yes but isnt odin supposed to be a FATE? so NMs, HNMs would be too. they spawn, there's message to everyone on map, and icon appears on map, people go there fight, them go their own ways, like with Atomos. It would be pretty strange to have *BAMs* only as FATEs.
The point i think is so you wont have claim wars or such, but anyone can come and participate. which sounds good to me. you shouln't need to be in an end game LS to get anything, since you're there contributing anyways.

[strallaalaa]

yes but isnt odin supposed to be a FATE? so NMs, HNMs would be too. they spawn, there's message to everyone on map, and icon appears on map, people go there fight, them go their own ways, like with Atomos. It would be pretty strange to have *BAMs* only as FATEs.
The point i think is so you wont have claim wars or such, but anyone can come and participate. which sounds good to me. you shouln't need to be in an end game LS to get anything, since you're there contributing anyways.

well that will be where we will disagree, if your not doing it with the same group, not strategising over the fight, it's not gonna be that difficult. it will be easy, or will be complained that ohh i can't solo it and it will get made even easier. but the biggest thing is everyone on server running to there is cool for events, but that isn't what HNM is, that isn't what the top gear in a mmo is going to be, least not with a successful mmo that breads players that play it for years. as for claim wars they can figure out ways to do without, even the ideas i posted remove them and other ideas in this post as well. things like atomos with pop drops in it for the real hnm, or what have you. no matter what though, that is what linkshells used to be, right now they are just useless hubs. you should have to know your place in a very strategic battle for things like this, otherwise it's dinky stuff like what F.A.T.E. is. dinky stuff like what gw2 has, dinky stuff that every mmo is putting in there games and people are leaving in hordes.

these mmo companies will not evolutionize there players, we want what we want and they can burn all there money trying but they will not succeed. you casual and solo players will keep playing by yourselves till the game goes f2p. and i didn't mean that directly at you radacci but all that think they can convince players who know what a real mmo is that these new mmo directions are the bees knees.