Highly Notorious Monsters

[strallaalaa]

i liked hnm's, i loved the full linkshell fighting part of it mostly. and i hated the time afk waiting. so for

1. they should be full linkshell or very large group oriented. aka 16-32 players (at the very least)
2. rather then time waiting there should be quicker/ if anything instant repops of hnm's in that zone after it dies or still pops if still being killed if 10mins passes or something to that extent.

basically my thought is the down time for a mob you are fighting mobs in that area that are constintly swarming and attacking agressively anyone in that area. so we don't go afk and come back every 25mins but are fighting things. like atomos fight would be good, and then pop comes the HNM ...and the mobs your killing can drop items that give you higher drop rates. since HNM's should keep popping everyone should be there fighting for HNM's but also always killing mobs that can higher your drop rates, maybe items that instant pop HNM, or special HNM with 100% drop rate*super rare* what have you. even can have small things and buffs from the smaller mobs. heck you can enter that area and it makes everyone naked and the killing of smaller stuff slowly gears you like in salvage event. anything other then sitting there afk.

also on the repops, as an after thought. it would be really cool if the HNM is claimed and being fought that another in that area can pop within 5mins. so that other groups can grab it, or even a full linkshell with enough people can grab it, then another pops every 5mins as long as one is being fought or killed. that could be pretty entertaining for linkshells to do together. HNM farming, with low drop rates. but i still love the idea of the atomos type event,where HNM's also have smaller mobs to kill inbetween each pop.

also to add about F.A.T.E it's not the same, that is just an open world event. it's dumbed down cause your not in full made parties and rather you are just a solo person in a large group. it's like campaign battles. but they are hyping it with these huge boss like mobs instead. games like tera have mobs that big as normal mobs to fight and it was still boring as crap. it's not no wear near what a HHM like ffxi had.

[Radacci]

also to add about F.A.T.E it's not the same, that is just an open world event. it's dumbed down cause your not in full made parties and rather you are just a solo person in a large group. it's like campaign battles. but they are hyping it with these huge boss like mobs instead. games like tera have mobs that big as normal mobs to fight and it was still boring as crap. it's not no wear near what a HHM like ffxi had.

yes but isnt odin supposed to be a FATE? so NMs, HNMs would be too. they spawn, there's message to everyone on map, and icon appears on map, people go there fight, them go their own ways, like with Atomos. It would be pretty strange to have *BAMs* only as FATEs.
The point i think is so you wont have claim wars or such, but anyone can come and participate. which sounds good to me. you shouln't need to be in an end game LS to get anything, since you're there contributing anyways.

[strallaalaa]

yes but isnt odin supposed to be a FATE? so NMs, HNMs would be too. they spawn, there's message to everyone on map, and icon appears on map, people go there fight, them go their own ways, like with Atomos. It would be pretty strange to have *BAMs* only as FATEs.
The point i think is so you wont have claim wars or such, but anyone can come and participate. which sounds good to me. you shouln't need to be in an end game LS to get anything, since you're there contributing anyways.

well that will be where we will disagree, if your not doing it with the same group, not strategising over the fight, it's not gonna be that difficult. it will be easy, or will be complained that ohh i can't solo it and it will get made even easier. but the biggest thing is everyone on server running to there is cool for events, but that isn't what HNM is, that isn't what the top gear in a mmo is going to be, least not with a successful mmo that breads players that play it for years. as for claim wars they can figure out ways to do without, even the ideas i posted remove them and other ideas in this post as well. things like atomos with pop drops in it for the real hnm, or what have you. no matter what though, that is what linkshells used to be, right now they are just useless hubs. you should have to know your place in a very strategic battle for things like this, otherwise it's dinky stuff like what F.A.T.E. is. dinky stuff like what gw2 has, dinky stuff that every mmo is putting in there games and people are leaving in hordes.

these mmo companies will not evolutionize there players, we want what we want and they can burn all there money trying but they will not succeed. you casual and solo players will keep playing by yourselves till the game goes f2p. and i didn't mean that directly at you radacci but all that think they can convince players who know what a real mmo is that these new mmo directions are the bees knees.