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    Cichy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    Who said what YOU did was majestic or noble? These forums still are a riot at times I see.. People can't defend an arguement without making stuff up.. But fine, I'll continue

    IF by chance there was a time where your LS was claiming almost everything I'm not sure what that has to do with anything I said... Regardless if YOUR LS failed and couldn't get a claim without a bot (which is beyond SAD...), that just a testament to the lack of competition on your server. EVEN IF theres abunch a groups out only with bots, you shouldn't get claim 90% of the time unless the other people simply arent even trying.. If your LS decides to let stuff drop to the ground (again.. fail.., we always had friends either on a waiting list outside the shell, or would sell it someone camping for whatever.. better than letting it drop to the floor...), that's just up to your LS... Basically, just because your LS botted on a server with hardly any competition (so.. so.. fail..), doesn't mean the rest of us didn't have fun doing it the way it was intended..

    Edit: The only thing that I will agree did become a problem w/ regard to HNM were the Speed Hacks, which I didnt notice as a problem until the Sandworm days.. Yeah fix that..

    Double Edit: Cichy, your name is kinda familiar, were you on Phoenix (volume?)
    LSs that attempted to camp HNMs and couldnt claim usually fell apart very fast.
    Every HNM linkshell in XI ever botted. That's just a fact. And yes people did not have fun doing it the way it was intended. You had fun watching someone kill Nidhogg after you spent past week camping Fafnir? Come on bro, it drove people to pull the hair out of their head.
    Speed hacks at sandworm were never a big problem because SE found a pretty reliable way to detect them. Most people who got banned were using those. People used Scan Zone to find Ixion and Sandworm.
    You cant convince anyone in their right mind that going everyday and seeing others kill HNM over and over is fun.
    Especially ones like Nidhoggs who were the only shot at E body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    LSs that attempted to camp HNMs and couldnt claim usually fell apart very fast.
    Every HNM linkshell in XI ever botted. That's just a fact. And yes people did not have fun doing it the way it was intended. You had fun watching someone kill Nidhogg after you spent past week camping Fafnir? Come on bro, it drove people to pull the hair out of their head.
    Speed hacks at sandworm were never a big problem because SE found a pretty reliable way to detect them. Most people who got banned were using those. People used Scan Zone to find Ixion and Sandworm.
    You cant convince anyone in their right mind that going everyday and seeing others kill HNM over and over is fun.
    Especially ones like Nidhoggs who were the only shot at E body.
    I pulled hair out, for sure. Probably tossed a few keyboards.

    It did bring some great inter-linkshell comedy, and competition though. Kept people playing solely to compete and smash the other LS's by claiming and getting that drop. I am in no way saying implement alot of this content, however. But for the ones of us who found that chaos fun, why not throw us a little piece of the pie and give us a few 21-24 hour HNM's. I used to get my homework done solely off 7th window pops lol. (When I say give us a "few", i mean think of if the game had over 500 NM"s total, make like 3 HNM's 21hour respawn)

    I think that other NM's with shorter respawn times should most certainly outnumber the above mentioned content, but I'm not saying it should be completely absent from the game. Some of us enjoyed the mud-slinging, raunchy camps of which is hardcore HNM camping.

    But do I want to do it every day, no. Hell no. But its just nice to have that wide variety of content, that way if I get in that mood I can go out there and camp that 21-24h HNM. That way when I lose claim I can go pop another instanced NM and take out my frustrations lol
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    Last edited by ThePatriarch; 04-03-2012 at 07:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    LSs that attempted to camp HNMs and couldnt claim usually fell apart very fast.
    Every HNM linkshell in XI ever botted. That's just a fact. And yes people did not have fun doing it the way it was intended. You had fun watching someone kill Nidhogg after you spent past week camping Fafnir? Come on bro, it drove people to pull the hair out of their head.
    Speed hacks at sandworm were never a big problem because SE found a pretty reliable way to detect them. Most people who got banned were using those. People used Scan Zone to find Ixion and Sandworm.
    You cant convince anyone in their right mind that going everyday and seeing others kill HNM over and over is fun.
    Especially ones like Nidhoggs who were the only shot at E body.
    No that's not a fact.. But you must be from the "Because we did, everyone did camp". Yeah, I had fun watching HNM almost as much as fighting, I've said that a few times already in this thread and others. Spectating was ALOT of fun for me, especially because you didn't always know how it would turn out. No, I didn't QQ after not getting Nidhogg after 2 weeks.. and I think it's kinda sad you did.. but if XI tugged at your emotional hamstrings for missing the possibility of MAYBE getting a drop, then that's on you. And yes, speed hacks were a large problem, there were so many alts running around blinking across the map at one point I almost wrote a letter to SE.. And what does Widescan have to do with using the speed hack? Yeah, we all know you located which zone Ixion or SW popped in with Widescan, the problem came after when all the LS's run to that position for the claim..

    Seeing others claim HNM over and over while rarely ever getting a claim yourself wouldn't be fun for me either. But, seeing as though I never said that in the first place I don't know why you felt the need to mention that. A HNM shell that actively camps, collects ToD's, has on-call members, and communicates with each other wouldn't have that problem in the first place.. At times it would seem other shells would be on roll with claims, other times we'd have them locked down, most times it was a pretty even spread with the exception of when an LS really focused on trying to lock down one specific HNM. Our schedule was so busy (which I'm SURE you should be aware of..) that regardless if we missed the claim we may have had members already camping two other HNMs. If we got claim great, if not we were already on the way to the next, or rushing to start the rest of endgame before it got too late. It did not bother me to miss claims.. We got plenty of all of them, and could gear newer members quick enough (if they had good attendence), and had plenty of places to be allllll the time.

    I was loving even days like these:
    POP!
    ....
    NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
    Missed Nidd AGAIN!!
    ....
    PlzWipePlzWipePlz
    ....
    OMG! OMG! OMG! SW POP La'Theine Plateau [S]!!! GO! GO! GO!
    Screw Nidd, everyone GO GO GO!
    ....
    GDI!! Already Claimed...
    ....
    BOOO!!!!!
    OK (Gather together)(Einherjar) - Odin - 15(Minute)!

    I didn't need to have the glory everyday just to have fun.
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    Last edited by Exn; 04-03-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exn View Post
    I was loving even days like these:
    POP!
    ....
    NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
    Missed Nidd AGAIN!!
    ....
    PlzWipePlzWipePlz
    ....
    OMG! OMG! OMG! SW POP La'Theine Plateau [S]!!! GO! GO! GO!
    Screw Nidd, everyone GO GO GO!
    ....
    GDI!! Already Claimed...
    ....
    BOOO!!!!!
    OK (Gather together)(Einherjar) - Odin - 15(Minute)!

    I didn't need to have the glory everyday just to have fun.
    This made my day good sir.

    This statement here exemplifies the wonders of having ample amounts of content. By catering to every aspect, there is always something to do, regardless of your successes/failures.
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