Highly Notorious Monsters

[Coglin]

Yes. Absolutely zero. Nobody bought the game because there were HNMs in it. In fact, nobody who bought the game likely knew what HNMs were.

Anyone who had played an MMO before did. Open world Named or Natorious Monsters was the standard in pretty much all MMOs.. Just because you were ignorant to that fact doesn't mean the rest of us were.

I can appreciate that you dislike the idea of HNMs. Thats great. Steer clear of them.

No one has actually offered one logical reason why they should not be implimented, because there isn't one. Its content that can add diversity. If your against diversity, then stick to the linear way you want to play, and do so. Trying to convince the rest of us, that wanting more then your linear outlook is a bad idea isn't really a logical approach

What appears to make less sense, is your making an uneducated attempt to tell us it that even if HNMs are precedented in a previous game, such as FFXI, that we shouldn't have them hear because players wouldn't have known what they were before hand? Seriously? Know that you think about it, that logic seems kind of, well.....stupid.

[KyrsIsley]

Anyone who had played an MMO before did. Open world Named or Natorious Monsters was the standard in pretty much all MMOs.. Just because you were ignorant to that fact doesn't mean the rest of us were.

I can appreciate that you dislike the idea of HNMs. Thats great. Steer clear of them.

No one has actually offered one logical reason why they should not be implimented, because there isn't one. Its content that can add diversity. If your against diversity, then stick to the linear way you want to play, and do so. Trying to convince the rest of us, that wanting more then your linear outlook is a bad idea isn't really a logical approach

What appears to make less sense, is your making an uneducated attempt to tell us it that even if HNMs are precedented in a previous game, such as FFXI, that we shouldn't have them hear because players wouldn't have known what they were before hand? Seriously? Know that you think about it, that logic seems kind of, well.....stupid.

Anyone who had played an MMO before also know about instances. Open world named or NMs was the standard of quite a few MMOs, but so was instance oriented content. Just because you are ignorant enough selectively pick the information that benefits your argument doesn't mean the rest of us are as blind as you.

People who are against HNMs are generally against it due to the long respawn timer resulting in "claim wars". It is perfectly logical to not want HNMs of that nature, because the challenge lies within preventing/reacting to the opposing parties trying to screw you over not the actual encounter. Plenty of people have proposed interesting and plausible ideas/compromises in attempt to bring back the positive aspects of HNMs (diversities, thrills, challanges..etc) while trying to prevent the negative aspects (claim wars, griefing...etc) from coming back.

What appears to make even lesser sense is you making an argument based on selective information and try to stereotype people just like the person you are replying to did.

[Coglin]

Anyone who had played an MMO before also know about instances. Open world named or NMs was the standard of quite a few MMOs, but so was instance oriented content.

Actually you wrong. There were MMOs up to that point that literally had absolutely zero instances. In the time frame of pre FFXI instancs were not the norm. They were just starting to come into play as they are today.

No. They shouldn't exist unless the problems they carried with them from FFXI are fully addressed.

This is the issue you and others seem to have here, its as if some of you can't see past FFXI when it comes to this game.. There are MMOs beyond FFXI, that had better mechanics for for endgame open world content right?