Highly Notorious Monsters

[ThePatriarch]

Please do tell me how you could implement world spawn super bosses while totally eliminating the possibility of botting/hacking to deny others the fair opportunity to experience said super boss.

If you can come up with an implementation that solves all problems and frustrations of FFXI's system, I'm all for it.

Don't have every HNM exist in the open world. Make some Instanced. Possibly make a situation where said HNM roams the Open-World, but is also contained in an instance. This would make it to where people who don't want to camp it, can take their chances of trying to kill it in their own, private instance. I am not saying make all HNM in this sort, we do want some unique, stand-alone HNM's that can only be found thriving in the vast, open world.

And HNM's are the only system that has potential for botting, cheating, etc...

Crafting was being botted, Square-Enix found a way to fix that exploit.

You should never eliminate content that so many obviously have interest in solely due to the fact that someone may find a way to exploit the systems flaws. There are flaws in every system, and it is up to the developer to address, and solve those issues.

that's a really fancy way of saying. "you're wrong."

Sir, I am not saying that at all. I am just not going to spend more time arguing the point with you. This thread is solely based on opinions, and who has the power to say which person is right? No one. I appreciate your input, and I encourage more people to post. Regardless of positive/negative. I knew when I made this thread that there was going to be backlash from a few people. And honestly, we need the negative opinions on the matter to help us shape what could be a great system for FFXIV.

[Alhanelem]

I know this type of guy he is the guy that calls gm's on players when they get out claimed every time.

I know this guy, he's the guy who baselessly labels players with no informaiton whatsoever.

I never, ever once called a GM on somebody for losing a camp. Ever. Nor did anyone else in my linkshell.

That doesn't mean I have to like botting and cheating.

I created this thread for people to contribute ideas on how we should implement HNM's.

Well, you should have created this thread with speicfic ideas for implementation, and specified exactly what you considered to be "HNMs." Because apparently, not everyone thinks of the same thing when this term comes up.

[Firon]

I know this guy, he's the guy who baselessly labels players with no informaiton whatsoever.

I never, ever once called a GM on somebody for losing a camp. Ever. Nor did anyone else in my linkshell.

That doesn't mean I have to like botting and cheating.

Do you have proof everyone botted and cheated tho? No you don't it was tons of ppl in XI that reported me or called me a bot when i played on ps2 lol.. When ppl don't get the claim they always point the bot finger.

[ThePatriarch]

That doesn't mean I have to like botting and cheating.

Well, you should have created this thread with speicfic ideas for implementation, and specified exactly what you considered to be "HNMs." Because apparently, not everyone thinks of the same thing when this term comes up.

None of us want botting. We are all for compromise, and ideas on the possibility of HNM's being implemented without the fear of botting and rampant cheating.

I agree, if I could change my thread title I would. We are not solely after "HNM's". We are after Notorious Monsters in general, whether they be instanced, roaming, force spawned, etc.

No one can deny that this game needs more content, and having a thriving open world filled with NM's would not hurt that aspect of the game.

[Alhanelem]

I never said it didn't happen but your on here rampaging acting like 100% of endgame ls did it when very few did.

Absolutely not. Only a few linkshells did it- but they won nearly every time they were there- That's more than enough to eventually ruin it for everyone else (of course, if the drop rates weren't so abysmal, those botters might not have stuck around as long, but that's probably another topic)