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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No, this is me saying that they were not a reason for purchase, a selling point of the game. But yes, for all intents and purposes, their popularity is and was limited. Not everybody got to do this. Hell, the majority of players in any MMO don't even reach the maximum level, much less get to do endgame content. You don't seem to understand this fact. For World of Warcraft, for instance, something like 75% of characters don't even reach level 10. HNMs weren't even popular among all high level players, many preferring to do quests, dynamis, assaults, etc or regular NMs. VERY FEW people actually got to do participate in HNMs on a regular basis.

    No, that doesn't nullify my statement. "Advanced players" is not everyone or a majority of people. It's a small number of people- like the top 1-5% of players.

    There is a MASSIVE difference between "no one" and a small number of people. You are the ignorant one, as you can't even read my post correctly.
    I don't think you actually played FFXI, or WoW. I however, played both.

    75% of people didn't get past level 10? Tell me Lodestone Official Forums, how long does it take for one to get to level 10 in WoW (less than a couple of hours).

    I want you to log into FFXI (if you have it), and do a "/sea all" command, tell me what you see in terms of level's. Please respond with how many people you see at max level. Furthermore I would ask you to do a percentage of people below 99, and people at 99, this way we can get a good feel at the comparison between people at max level, and people who aren't. (we wont even consider the fact that most of them have multiple 99's. (I am going to make an assumption and say that 75%+ are at maximum level).

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    No, that doesn't nullify my statement. "Advanced players" is not everyone or a majority of people. It's a small number of people- like the top 1-5% of players.
    I'm not sure if you are being serious here. If you think that in FFXI, only 1-5% of the community participated in endgame content..

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There is a MASSIVE difference between "no one" and a small number of people. You are the ignorant one, as you can't even read my post correctly.
    Define a small amount of people sir. Because I think alot more than a "small" amount of people are interested in HNM's.

    When it comes to ignorant, I guess making a collaborative thread with ideas about the hopeful implementation of a beloved aspect of prior SE MMO's; Which contains over 500 replies, 12000+ views, and 129 personal likes, is ignorant?

    Rather, I think coming into that thread, and trying to argue the point that no one is interested in said content.. that sir, is ignorant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    ZNM are not HNM, nor are BCNM or KSNMs...
    They are all Notorious Monsters.....

    Zeni Notorious Monster
    Burning Circle Notorious Monster
    Kindred Seal Notorious Monster...

    We want all of these, not just the open-world aspect. Please read before posting.
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    Last edited by ThePatriarch; 04-02-2012 at 05:19 AM.
    Bring Quality Notorious Monsters to FFXIV!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/40738-Highly-Notorious-Monstersz