Highly Notorious Monsters

[ThePatriarch]

Yes. Absolutely zero.

This is you saying that HNM's had no popularity.

HNMs were a part of the game, and they were something that some of the most advanced players in the game enjoyed

This is you nullifying your prior statement. Whether or not you want to admit/believe it, HNM's were very popular. In some cases on the more crowded servers there would be in upwards of 100 at each camp. And you say advanced players... What do you think people aspire to be in MMO's? The greater majority of people who play MMO's would eventually like to get to the "Upper Tier", and slay those massive monsters with friends, or work on finally clearing that instanced dungeon.

Even more, Notorious Monsters are easily one of the biggest parts of FFXI (arguably the biggest). There are so many forms of NM/HNM's, and each and every one of them are liked by a certain crowd.

You had your ground HNM (Ground Kings/21-24hour spawn)

Small time World NM's (leaping lizzy, Valkurm Em, etc)

Forced pop HNM's (sky, sea, etc)

ZNM (Zeni Notorious Monsters)

Instanced HNM's (Nyzul, Assault, Salvage, Dynamis etc)

The fact that you would say that no one had any interest in HNM/NM's, is simply ignorant.

[Alhanelem]

I liked how bcnm, ksnm, znm, were implemented in xi

funny how you complain about instanced content when 2 of these 3 are instanced content and you say you liked them...

ZNM are not HNM (well, until the final tier...), nor are BCNM or KSNMs...

What i cant even understand is why no one like the idea of competition on HNM or anything for that matter.

Because it's NOT FUN. In no small part because it usually leads to some kind of cheating. I do NOT like the idea of going out to kill some HNM, sitting there waiting for 3 hours for it to pop, only to have some linkshell with a bot claim the monster before it even appears on anyone else's screen. How could you find that to be fun unless you were the one doing the botting? Then there was the constant interruptions to other activities- I can't tell you how many times I had planned an activity with some LS members, like a week in advance, only to have it cancelled by the 7th day of fafnir or some other HNM that MIGHT pop "HQ."

If you can't understand why it's not fun, then you were more than likely part of a linkshell that botted or cheated.

Its just my opinion but bring back HNM Xi style

It's not worth their time to develop content that only 100 out of 10-20,000 people will want to play.

Big scary need your wits and a good size group of people to beat bosses are fine. I want more of those. I do NOT want them open world. Force pop or instanced only, unless repop times are low.