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    I believe he's saying that seeing an NM in XI was surprising and exciting. When they are always up they become boring and commonplace. They're little more than an NPC you go out and click on until they give you the gear you want. The rarity in XI gave them value. They enhanced the environment and added an air of anticipation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abhayaa View Post
    I believe he's saying that seeing an NM in XI was surprising and exciting. When they are always up they become boring and commonplace. They're little more than an NPC you go out and click on until they give you the gear you want. The rarity in XI gave them value. They enhanced the environment and added an air of anticipation.
    Indeed.

    I will use Valkurm Emperor and Prince of Pestilence as examples:

    Valkurm Emperor was a measly level 35 NM in a low level zone, but in the early days it was heavily camped and sought after like no other. Even after years of implementation, people freaked out and rushed to claim it when they saw it up unclaimed. Even to this day I like seeing that old NM.

    Prince of Pestilence, like most NM's in FFXIV, is always up. Even if its killed, it will be there again in 5 minutes. Not exciting to see, to me it's just another mob.

    I want NM's to have that magic again, I want to get excited when I see one. Not shrug my shoulders and walk on by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    Indeed.

    I will use Valkurm Emperor and Prince of Pestilence as examples:

    Valkurm Emperor was a measly level 35 NM in a low level zone, but in the early days it was heavily camped and sought after like no other. Even after years of implementation, people freaked out and rushed to claim it when they saw it up unclaimed. Even to this day I like seeing that old NM.

    Prince of Pestilence, like most NM's in FFXIV, is always up. Even if its killed, it will be there again in 5 minutes. Not exciting to see, to me it's just another mob.

    I want NM's to have that magic again, I want to get excited when I see one. Not shrug my shoulders and walk on by.
    Not saying I disagree with the idea of hnms for the people who thought that was fun, but the only reason people rushed to valkurm emperor, leaping lizzy, et al is because they dropped gear that was considered either mandatory by elitist jerks, or could be sold for millions of Gil, they also were heavily camped by bots and had lousy drop rates.

    Personally I like ffxiv's nm' because I can usually actually see them, kill them, and if I feel like it actually try and get the item from them, camp them for awhile, top that off with their drops being u/u and you don't wind up with XI's "if you dont have this incredibably rare drop from this heavily camped nm, you're gimp and lazy"