Highly Notorious Monsters

[Elexia]

The one thing I think they need to do...is bring back the special battle music, part of the reason it doesn't feel as exciting is because there's really no special music associated with some of the encounters. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJzD...eature=related

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LqY8...eature=related

If music like this started to play when you're fighting say Chimera or an open world HNM, drops be damned it would just be a full rush from hearing the song alone.

[ThePatriarch]

The one thing I think they need to do...is bring back the special battle music, part of the reason it doesn't feel as exciting is because there's really no special music associated with some of the encounters. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJzD...eature=related

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LqY8...eature=related

If music like this started to play when you're fighting say Chimera or an open world HNM, drops be damned it would just be a full rush from hearing the song alone.

This is an excellent post. I am honestly surprised that we have come this far into the thread without even a hint at music. You are very right, and I think proper music would bring some much needed light on not only HNM fights, but primarily any fights!

Good post, ty.

/edit. Even a Star Marmot fight would be entrancing with the right music!

[Rydin]

If I have to choose then I, like most people, think this system is a hell of a lot better than what XI had.

vs

Regardless of how much you dislike HNM's, I think it would be foolish to ignore the greater majority of people in this thread that do.

I just dont know who to believe anymore...

[Yves]

I agree. I am working on this, but its the middle of the work week, and I'm kind of a busy guy right now!

I will do my best to compile the ideas input thus far, and make a more detailed first post

Awesome, man. I think it is highly impressive to do such a thing due to the conviction is requires.

[ThePatriarch]

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I just dont know who to believe anymore...

Take a deep look at Peptaru's posts, read them thoroughly. Here is an example:

I'll go back to my original state of mind then, forget HNM, FFXIV isn't designed for them. It's built for work = reward, not work = maybe get OP stuff. If I have to choose then I, like most people, think this system is a hell of a lot better than what XI had. Go fondle your epeen elsewhere. Yep, that was overly aggressive and IDC. Here I was hoping you (being the biggest proponent of these coming back in new ways) would welcome work = reward, when it seems you might just be another e-peener.

If people want to camp HNMs for thrill, cool. If people want to camp HNMs just to think they're better than the other players, then nothx. It should stay out of XIV. That isn't the environment it's built so far. Work = reward in XIV.

Work = Reward? Between PL's and a Instanced Raid system with a loot distribution method that is broke worse than America's Economy, I don't really take his posts seriously. And "This system being better than XI's system", really explains why XI was much, much, much more successful and had a much, much, much larger playerbase.

Then take a few moments and flip through the pages of this thread and get a feel, firsthand on how many more supporters there are for HNM's, as compared to those against.

And even still, that is not the point of this thread. I am trying to discuss different methods of how HNM's can be implemented in a manner which appeals to more than just one class of players.

Not discuss why X idea is better than X idea.

[Rydin]

Take a deep look at Peptaru's posts, read them thoroughly.

Then take a few moments and flip through the pages of this thread and get a feel, firsthand on how many more supporters there are for HNM's, as compared to those against.

And even still, that is not the point of this thread. I am trying to discuss different methods of how HNM's can be implemented in a manner which appeals to more than just one class of players.

Not discuss why X idea is better than X idea.

Everyone always think their idea is better... and opposing ideas blow cat chunks....
we are by nature, close minded individuals
I just want tons and tons of content... and worthwhile rewards for the more difficult content...
that is all...
However it's implemented... just give me tons of stuff to do

[ThePatriarch]

I just want tons and tons of content... and worthwhile rewards for the more difficult content...
that is all...
However it's implemented... just give me tons of stuff to do

As do we all. I support your post 110% and agree, we need so much more than just HNM's.

HNM's coming into the game would be just one of many things that alot of us wish this game had.

Don't take this thread as an end-all-be all of the content that FFXIV can contain. Take it as just a morsel of what is hopefully to come.

[Coglin]

How exactly is that comical? It happens in MMOs all the time. You'd have to have your head buried in the sand to say you've never seen this happen in an MMO.

It comical because it has an equal chance of occuring in instanced situation, but you use it as to justify why HNMs should not exist and instances should. Thus, its comical that you so blatently use it as an arguement against one, and turn such a blind eye to it for the other. Your use of it to support an anti HNM arguement is the true definition of falacy.

I'm not sure why people would want this:
Roaming Dragons.
Giant Beasts.
High Respawn Timers.
Amazing Gear.

To be completely honest, those who do want it, don't need you to understand why. I dislike instances in general, but thats just me. My only serious issue with instances is that they are currently limited to 8. But, I do not question anyones desire for instanced content.

[ThePatriarch]

To be completely honest, those who do want it, don't need you to understand why. I dislike instances in general, but thats just me. My only serious issue with instances is that they are currently limited to 8. But, I do not question anyones desire for instanced content.

This is quite true. HNM's can be involved in Instances. But we all known how exciting the current instances are. NM's work quite will in the instances we have now, I for one enjoyed fighting Bertraal for the first time. But its the obligatory lack of content.

Instances like Dynamis, Limbus, Einherjah incorporated NM's well. There is no reason why people who love instances can't level with the ones who love Open-World style fights. They can coexist despite whatever reasonings you come up with that one or the other should be the only type of fighting.

[Rydin]

As do we all. I support your post 110% and agree, we need so much more than just HNM's.

HNM's coming into the game would be just one of many things that alot of us wish this game had.

Don't take this thread as an end-all-be all of the content that FFXIV can contain. Take it as just a morsel of what is hopefully to come.

I know.. just saying I support anything that talks about adding new content!!