Highly Notorious Monsters

[ArnoMorley]

You could also calculate the following: we have more exposure to those named athletes due to a heightened media. Also factor in that nobody covers the hundreds of hours of community service Drew Brees did for New Orleans. Thus, people prefer to watch athletes (or anyone famous) at their worst behavior because it brings them down to what we perceive to be a lower level than ourselves. This is why reality television is so big.

Also, remember that anyone can look like a jerk if portrayed in short snippets of only their worst moments. I could put together a media montage that makes Ghandi look like a total dick and one that does vice-versa.

You have friends in the NFL who are jerks. I have friends in mainstream MMA that I train with ("train" is a loose term meaning "I get beat up by") who are completely normal people who just so happen to possess extreme conviction and natural ability/physical parameters. I also know a couple who are jerks.

The point is that no one single group in society is solely one way. At the end of the day we are all humans (in good and bad moments) - we all possess the ability to be jerks in some instances and the complete opposite in others.

Hey Drew Sleeze is a jerk, don't kid yourself. I love how he tries to act horrified by the whole bounty scandal. The coach too, they have him on record telling the people involved "just have your stories straight". They made a big deal about him breaking Dan Marino's passing record, yeah well he did it by being an asshole and stacking points against other teams all year. Even if he wasn't involved in the bounty he still does enough dickish moves on his own.

And so what if he's done community service, he's only doing it for his image. Most of the time with celebrities that's all it is, and I've always said be wary of somebody who's too into charity work. A lot of times it's compensation for bad things they've done, I always ask myself what have they done that they're trying to make up for?

P.S. Ghandi was a pedophile, and is responsible for Pakistan being in existence.

[Yves]

Hey Drew Sleeze is a jerk, don't kid yourself. I love how he tries to act horrified by the whole bounty scandal. The coach too, they have him on record telling the people involved "just have your stories straight". They made a big deal about him breaking Dan Marino's passing record, yeah well he did it by being an asshole and stacking points against other teams all year. Even if we wasn't involved in the bounty he still does enough dickish moves on his own.

And so what if he's done community service, he's only doing it for his image. Most of the time with celebrities that's all it is, and I've always said be wary of somebody who's too into charity work. A lot of times it's compensation for bad things they've done, I always ask myself what have they done that they're trying to make up for?

P.S. Ghandi was a pedophile, and is responsible for Pakistan being in existence.

So by your standard all athletes are jerks. Like I said, this is flatly untrue. If you are saying there is a higher probability I would be veeeeery inclined to buy that as a true statement.

And look, I am going to assume that you played football if you have friends in the NFL. I did for over 18 years. As a guy who played SS, Mike, Sam, Will, and DE I can attest that once you're in that locker room, clubhouse, or field the constraints of morality are pretty much gone. Yes, you feel bad after the game for what you did but you did it because it's your damn job. As a Mike, my job on running formations was to pound the A gaps and break whoever came through there first and make them never want to do it again. On passing situations we ran a variation of a shallow Tampa-2 which meant that my job was to put whoever came across my zones on their ass if the ball came into the vicinity. As a Will on overload blitzes I went facemask-to-facemask with the QB and believe me - the shit you say on the field is just awful. But that's the game. That's the culture during preparation and during play. But afterwards, it's all about the brotherhood. So, framing football as it actually exists, a bounty scandal is in bad taste and against the rules but only because it involves money. If you played D or O-Line or FB/TE and never once took some pride in putting a guy on the sidelines for a day because you dished out more punishment than he could handle you certainly weren't playing the same game as me. And let's be honest - when you drop another man onto the bench for the day you get mad props when your series is over.

Like I said, I felt bad after the game was over. Hell - I broke a QB's collarbone on a borderline late hit and he and I are great friends 10 years later.

On-topic, I obviously advocate the return of the HNM but prefer it to be for trivial items simply because it will provide with the content we like but also appease many of the objections.